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How brainwashed do you have to be to spread something like that?


Let's swap the flag for the Israeli flag and the #meme still works. Can snyone really be so stupid as not to notice this? Unfortunately, this meme is being spread here on #Diaspora and my criticism of it was immediately deleted and subsequently I was blocked. So you remain in your filter bubble where no #criticism is allowed to enter and the #conflict continues endlessly.

Unfortunately, we can't ask the biggest supporter of Israel on Diaspora about the topic because I had to block him. But #Anonymiss, you're doing the same thing you just criticized and you're blocking your critics? I put up with his insults for a very long time and his criticism would be much more meaningful without insults.

So the hardliners on both sides are shifting their efforts to propaganda in order to justify their own actions. They denounce the war crimes of the other side and are blind to their own war crimes.

In such a divided world, we should not be surprised if we are ruled by creeps and conflicts are never resolved.


#war #terror #problem #politics #conflict #Israel #Palestine #propaganda #warcrime #fail #future #military

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Holy shit I feel weird. I didn't even think about the flag I was looking at or its meaning, just read the words and assumed that it was referring to the horrific Israeli war crimes.
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The problem with this line of reasoning is that it does not take into account which is the aggreived party in this dispute. Clearly, it is the Palestinians, who did not visit a holocaust upon the Jewish people, but were forcibly disposessed and massacred in the creation of a Zionist 'entity' by the external powers who did. No justice, no peace...
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I agree Anonymiss. Attempting to portray this as good guys and bad guys inevitably erases everything that doesn't match you narrative, whoever you choose as the good and bad.
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What a cowardly and cynical abdication of responsibility and craven discounting of the historical record. No, it just won't do.
here...
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No justice, no peace...


What price do you want to pay for justice if the other side has nuclear weapons? Do you want to sacrifice the whole world for justice?

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Quite sure the person is mdr_ill_be_back@diasp.org.
I have been knowing him for around 6 years on Diaspora. It reappears every time Israel is on the headlines and insults you (either antisemitic or fascist) if you criticise the country.
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"What price ... for justice"


Wait, this isn't a duel between two sides, both with faults and virtues? It isn't even a conflict between good and evil? Are you saying that it is essentially a contest between the nuclear-armed and the powerless?

"Listen, then. I say justice is nothing other than what is advantageous for the stronger."

  • Thrasýmachos; c. 459 – c. 400 BC
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What price do you want to pay for justice if the other side has nuclear weapons? Do you want to sacrifice the whole world for justice?


exactly the point actually.. Some Israeli officials already evoked the idea of nuking. Even more urgent than plain moral, the simple scale of firepower calls for a serious discussion with the part we know we could have an influence on. This is not done, only "unconditionnal support" so far, even as bodycount and horrors keep piling as we speak.

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Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

long story indeed..

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"Listen, then. I say justice is nothing other than what is advantageous for the stronger."


The rule of law is always fair because whether you are homeless or a millionaire, you always receive the same punishment for illegal camping.

I don't know if anyone would describe the reorganisation of Europe after the Second World War as justice. Nevertheless, it led to peace and international understanding.

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There again, before justice It was about stopping the massacre in progress, the fracking golem burning everything because it just has the power.
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Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam ...


You're not saying that a Gazan (or a young boy in Jenin) is suffering as he is as we type in this little comments thread as retribution for Roman sins? If so, this is some capricious logical justification that you are blazing a trail on. I must confess a slowly failing stamina in 'keeping up'.

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Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.


I see that we have conjured the spirit of Dr. Oedipal Complex himself. So the Mongol-tier slaughter that we are witness to in the Levant is not only payback for Carthage, but for the Cathars?

As an American taxpayer, I need to complain to Raytheon or Lockheed that their ordnance targeting systems are failing their quality control tests: clearly the Rothschildistan air force is hitting targets in Khan Younis and Rafah when those strikes are meant for Rome ... or the Vatican.

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The rule of law is always fair ...


This has got to be meant ironically; tell me that it is, please.

I don’t know if anyone would describe the reorganisation of Europe after the Second World War as justice.


I guess anyone would ... if they relied on the 'history' mandated by the victors and firmly covered their ears to muffle the cries of the long buried victims of what Hoover called "Semitic" vengeance.

Nevertheless, it led to peace and international understanding.


Now you really have to be kidding.

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I can't speak for anonymiss but my use of the quote was not an endorsement, that sentence is for me the very symbol of blind violence with religion as an excuse, and it's part of the history of my country.
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... the history of my country.


I consider that particular historical episode to have been a great tragedy and a crime meriting at least some reckoning. If you think somehow similarly, this is a point of accord between us.

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of course it was, frankly I just can't imagine who could endorse such a fracking message..
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Well, you never know. Atrocities will always have their proponents ... until they don't.

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