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Which of these browsers do you trust? Choose all that apply.

#EvanPoll #poll

  • Chrome (5%, 36 votes)
  • Firefox (88%, 608 votes)
  • Vivaldi (26%, 185 votes)
  • Edge (1%, 12 votes)
687 voters. Poll end: 1 month ago

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in reply to Andrew Feeney

@andrewfeeney This is a bug in how we designed polls in ActivityPub. There's no way to answer "none of the above", unless I define an answer for it.
in reply to Capybara

@sotneStatue @andrewfeeney Other ActivityPub platforms? I doubt that.

You can see on the Activity Vocabulary section on questions that only positive responses are counted:

w3.org/TR/activitystreams-voca…

The only way I can see to do this in AP is to add a "none of the above" choice. Maybe there are platforms that do that automatically?

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I wish I felt like I could still trust Firefox. )-:

Answered: which of these do I distrust the least.

in reply to Evan Prodromou 🎏

the poll question should be: which of these browsers do you distrust the least.

Because that's what using browsers comes down to these days.

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LibreWolf -> A custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom.
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Evan Prodromou 🎏
@mcm_63 yes, that's a browser all right. This poll is more like a yes/no on these particular browsers, rather than "what is the most trustworthy browser", which is hard to do as a multiple choice question.
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Well, I use Firefox, anyway. So I trust it some.

The ones I would truly trust would be more fringe, open source browsers, but I've used, e.g., Iceweasal, before, and compatibility issues do come up.

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why not Safari? I did choose Firefox, but would've chosen Safari if this was a choice.
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Evan Prodromou 🎏
@slothrop nbd. Sometimes people assume I've got an agenda I'm trying to promote by mentioning some topic. I like to find out what it is so I can clarify, and sometimes it helps me make clearer polls in the future.
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trust? It's a big ask. I trust they will do everything within their rights to make the browser moderately safe and pleasant experience. I trust they make sure they stay on top of security patches and roll out features that benefit them more than the user. Complete trust for me, no.
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I trust Firefox *today*, but I am extremely worried about Mozilla's trajectory. I fear they could make a series of decisions at any moment that would lose my trust forever, and that there will be zero usable browser engines made by organizations that I trust.

I would not trust any browser made using a browser engine that I don't trust. It's too bad about Vivaldi, which seems like a friendly company, but being proprietary *and* relying on Chromium/Blink is totally disqualifying.

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@nicdex I use Safari 90% of the time. I use Firefox the other times when I’m on my gaming PC. If Safari for Windows were still a thing, I’d be using it.
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in reply to Evan Prodromou 🎏

and now if you ask which one of these browsers do you know, probably Vivaldi would get the same 28%
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Thanks. I've been a longtime Firefox lover, but I've switched my daily drive to Vivaldi, originally because they have put time and resources into the Fediverse, but now because I like the software. Thanks to everyone who responded!
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I like Vivaldi and use it as a second browser. I still daily drive Firefox (despite the questionable moves of their parent) because of inertia and not wanting to concede that chromium won a monopoly on browser engines.
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Vivaldi and Opera aren't that bad imho, but i'd keep trying "cleaned derivatives" like Librewolf (from Firefox) and etc.
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I've been using Brave because it can open Tor and am playing with the Arc browser just because it looks different.
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If I do another poll with 4 more browsers, I think I'll do Safari, Brave, and Arc. Any others I should consider?
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Lynx, the oldest continually-maintained browser.
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I've just learned about Zen browser. Downloaded it but haven't installed it yet. I believe it's built on top of Firefox
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I think you need a "none of the above" option. I'm not sure I _trust_ any browser.
Either that or a "it's complicated" option 😁
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How about WaterFox, a fork of Mozilla?

waterfox.net

in reply to Evan Prodromou 🎏

I don't trust any, myself, though I admit to ignorance. Chrome became bad enough that I switched to Safari and Firefox depending on device. Some of the others might deserve trust. I don't trust the two I use, but they have some good features. In particular Apple is unkind to its competitors, and parts of that are very good (like the curate's soft-boiled egg).

(Systemic problems need systemic solutions.)

in reply to Evan Prodromou 🎏

Belatedly - now that I think of it - I would have wondered why Tor wasn't one of the four. If trust is the issue I would have thought that was the one.
I see a bit of chat in the thread, but less than I expected.

Also - if you're running a browser on an apple tablet or phone, you're just running Safari in a skin. In that case, it's going to be at least as bad as Safari ... Well, I got curious and went to see what Tor says about it-
support.torproject.org/tormobi…

(Worth consideration)

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@Evan Prodromou I'm still not sure exactly what "woke" is supposed to mean (when used in a derogatory sense).
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@Evan Prodromou Yeah, I did.

I'm aware of the original meaning of the term. It's just how it's become twisted into a negative term that baffles me.

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