(That is, of course, an artifact of me self-hosting everything that I can, using domain-level ad blocking for the rest, and in general living mostly off the digital map.)
@SilverEagle It seems like Mozilla are trying to cash in on the (well-justified) frustrations of their userbase with AI/LLM crap being crammed in everywhere, while also hoping nobody notices they're pivoting to it like everyone else...? :/
@jhwgh1968 @FenAesirs it can't even be "just the capitalism", their sidebar chatbot feature has the Capitalism Models too - I don't understand this at all
@jhwgh1968 @chinmay @FenAesirs Own cloud LLMs aren't better, though. That just Mozilla directly responsible for the erosion of labor rights and proliferation of harmful disinformation, rather than a broker for other companies doing so.
I'd happily donate to @mozilla if I knew it would go towards building an awesome browser. Unfortunately, at least part of the donation would go into ad-tech and AI, and I have no interest in sponsoring any of that.
Since I am not a dumbass, I know that it doesn't actually take $400,000,000 a year to develop a web browser. So since Mozilla gets at least that much EVERY FUCKING YEAR from one source out of the many they have available, why are they now asking for donations from me?
Perhaps it is time to get back to developing a web browser, rather than other things that aren't web browsers that you wish to stuff in my web browser in order to monetize me?
@me I think making a web browser is extremely complicated and requires a great deal of time, effort, and expertise. The making part is what I want them to keep doing, and even become better at. The *other stuff* is the source of my complaints and the clear subject of my rant.
@.vad//hakara🧭 Sorry, yeah, I don't disagree. I was just lamenting the reason they can get away with the shenanigans they've been pulling: because they have no real competitors who do better, and the barrier to entry for one is insanely high.
@mozilla I would donate if you removed the AI and continued threats to online privacy from Firefox. I would actually be willing to donate much more than $10 if you remove the AI and continued threats to online privacy from Firefox.
If they promised to immediately stop doing AI and all the advertising and tracking bullshit I would probably send them $100 but alas there is no way to get there from here
This, plus their so-called „privacy-preserving“ ad tracking they activated by default a few months ago. #Mozilla needs to eject the tech bros from any decision-making positions. heise.de/en/news/For-advertisi…
Firefox presents itself as the first choice for data protection. But the new version collects data for advertisers by default. Normal or a breach of trust?
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in reply to Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️ • • •★ blue-caller ☆
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in reply to FenAesirs • • •@FenAesirs I think they believe that "ethical" or "privacy preserving" or "insert trait here" forms of LLMs are possible
"It's not the tech, it's the capitalism!"
... then they can get the money or the marketing hype or whatever, and keep their users too!
Not realizing that for many running it in the cloud at all is the problem
And for many more, it actually *is* the tech
chinmay
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in reply to chinmay • • •@chinmay @FenAesirs but as one off the popular posts conjectured, that's temporary until they can build their own cloud LLM
"Capitalism as a necessary stage of development" or something like that the old German guy said
(This is all speculation, and tipping into a shitpost at this point)
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in reply to Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️ • • •Since I am not a dumbass, I know that it doesn't actually take $400,000,000 a year to develop a web browser. So since Mozilla gets at least that much EVERY FUCKING YEAR from one source out of the many they have available, why are they now asking for donations from me?
Perhaps it is time to get back to developing a web browser, rather than other things that aren't web browsers that you wish to stuff in my web browser in order to monetize me?
Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to .vad//hakara🧭 • •@.vad//hakara🧭 It turns out, making a web browser is more complicated than you would think.*
I doubt it costs $400,000,000, as you point out, but there's a reason there's so little competition in the market.
* Looking at the HTML5 spec, I can't escape the conclusion that this is by design.
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in reply to Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️ • • •heise.de/en/news/For-advertisi…
For advertising: Firefox now collects user data by default
Moritz Förster (heise online)