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Flash Drives have too much capacity.

I started making a flash drive mixtape. I put 90 minutes of music on there. I put a 4k feature film on there. I put a video game on there. I stuck a webcomic on there. I made a webpage for it to all fit together.

It's less than 3GB. If I went 1080p instead, I think I could get it down to CD-R size.

I still have 29 GB free on this flash drive.

This is so silly.

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

i put hirens boot cd on there. i put the bee movie script on there. i put the entire infocom collection and a cross-platform binary z interpreter on there. i put the 1966 world book encyclopedia on there. i am now just catting dev random on there. it has to end.
in reply to DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab

@djsundog Retro computer emulator, and entire run of BYTE, Compute, Creative Computing, and computer-specific mag (I'd do Atari 800 & Antic, but TRS-80 CoCo & 80 Micro is a hell of a good choice).
in reply to DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab

I had the World Book when I was in grade school. I looked forward to the extra annual volumes because each included something special. Like Cracker Jack, but educational. One year, it was a hologram -- then a new technology -- and another year, it was a map of the world ocean floors.

I should add World Book to my SSD mix tape. Do you have a link to a set from the mid to late 1960s ? Is it at archive.org ?

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

the thing that gets me is the economics that make it actually cheaper to have a giant flash disk than it is to make the size I actually need

Like I know how it happens and I still think “how does that happen?!”

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

is that an http page that lives on the drive and links to the files on the drive with an index and discussion of the entries? That’s kind of blowing my mind
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

I'm looking for a new flash drive to use as external storage on my router (for rrdtool). Two gigs is more than enough for a year's worth of data. The smallest I can reasonably get is sixteen gigs.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

You could film “The Making of the Mixtape” in 4K and still fit that bonus content on there.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

I've been working on this for a few months. I started when YouTube started to block people just for connecting from a VPS [not even a VPN].

The idea is to create -- before YouTube goes dark from my perspective -- a Flash stick or SSD mix tape of the type that you've mentioned.

However, my version is targeting 1 to 2 TB media because that isn't too expensive any longer. The price is likely to drop to pocket change in the short term.

1 to 2 TB is enough to hold, in a shirt pocket, dozens of movies, entire TV series, entire radio station music playlists, all of Wikipedia [without videos or histories], 1,000s of books and comic books, 1,000s of paintings or photos, entire Linux distros, mirrors of numerous websites, and perhaps at that point the collection will be getting started.

Stuck waiting somewhere? No problem. Half of a century of media is in your pocket.

Two decades ago, I phoned a librarian to discuss an estimate of how much data was in her library. She was startled to learn that numerous books, even then, would fit on the then-large storage of an 80 GB Seagate or Buffalo external disk drive.

Today, 80 GB isn't even a drop in the bucket.

So far, I've got:

* All of "ALF", "Dead Zone" [TV series], "8 is Enough", "Land of the Lost", and more regular series.

* The Anderson Puppet TV series: "Captain Scarlet", "Thunderbirds", "JOE 90", and others.

* For YT shorts, all of "Beluga", "HISHE", and "Omeletto". Plus how-to series about terrariums and the required humorous cat and dog videos.

* Every song that I'd like to hear again from the 1960s to the 1980s. Note: The 1990s to 2020s are O.K. but there are arguably fewer classics.

* Dozens of DVD and BluRay films [which I largely paid for and have a right to transcode]. Plus what happens to come along at "archive.org" and on other sites.

I like to pick up oddities such as an HD version of "Gumbasia" and the rare original version of "The Point". Note: We're of an age and so I assume that you remember the latter production.

Technical note: If one follows the Doom9 BluRay technical instructions, it's now possible to play or transcode most BluRays dated through 2023 under Linux. I didn't think that that would be possible, but they've kept up.

* Entire CDrama series. Why not? There's room. Try "Legend of Shen Li" [the Chinese Star Wars] or "Imperial Coroner" [plucky girl rises to success by becoming the Quincy of Ancient China].

Screenshot below: This is a scene from a music video titled "We're NASA and We Know It".

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

Okay, mixtape thoughts.

A well compressed 4k film is 2GB. A well compressed 1080 film is 600MB. If i go for maximal compatibility and quality, rather than optimal size (and storage is currently cheap enough that I can), a 4k film comes in around 5GB in h265, and a 1080 film comes in around 3 in h264. You can go bigger, obviously, but if it was a born digital file there isnt an obvious benefit (analog noise does not compress well, so stuff shot on 8 or 16mm needs a little more bandwidth or DNR.)

(I've never tried to encode 4k in 264... :psyduck: :psyduck: :think_bread: :thinkerguns: Not going to get sidetracked right now. )

Music in flac is 8-10 MB per song, but 320k mp3s are sufficient, and 96k opus is fucking fine and even if I have the Space why would I burn it up on stuff no one is going to notice?? If you can tell the difference between 320k mp3s and a flac file in your car 1) no you can't 2) you spent too much money on your car's dac 3) when is it ever going to matter?

So, at 4k I can fit 6 pretty high bitrate films on a $3 flash drives. 16 if I work for it.

At 1080... between 10 and 40, de9ejdijg on bitrate.

6 films is at the high end of what I'd want to include in a collection, honestly. 10ish hours of video is a huge expectation to put on someone. We watch 1 - 2 movies a month. 3 - 6 months of films in a mixtape is not the move.

40 is ridiculous. That's not a curated experience, it's a pile of junk. (I mean, it can absolutely be a curated experience, but it moves in to different territory. That's a classroom curriculum or a museum exhibit, not a mixtape.)

That's 4.5 weeks of uninterrupted audio.

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

really puts into perspective when some tech company says they have “terabytes of logs” eh

cheap old bad technology is stupidly good if only we don’t flush the capability of the hardware down the toilet with a bunch of shit that doesn’t matter

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

So right about the curated experience. Effectively infinite choices is less useful than a well-defined selection.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

So optical media, right?

A DVD-R holds 4.7 GB and costs, what, 20 cents? Less in bulk?

Doing optical media mixtapes gives me enough room for a 90-minute album, two hours of video, a game, and a website to introduce and contextualize it all, for 20 cents.

Add a case and a booklet for less than a dollar, and I still come in way under the price of USB drives.

But then folks have to have optical drives.

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

An optical drive is $20 or less and available locally for most folks.

We should all have optical drives.

I think I'm going to make that a core tenant of what I'm doing. Optical media is the optimal solution.

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

I love optical media, but I'm not sure I'd consider optical media more practical than flash tbqh?

but then again, if I'm really trying to think from the perspective of independence+maintenance, no tech really works :/

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

But most people thinks these are bulky and unreliable. And, to some extent, they are right.

I bought two Blu-ray recorders to make backups and then I found:

- Win10 allows you to make a rescue disk in several dvds but not in one blu-ray.

- Blu-ray writing crashes ramdomly.

But, hey, nobody can ransom dvds from your staircase.

in reply to MicroBlog Castellano

@microblogc I didn't mention bluray anywhere in this post. You brought that baggage with you.

And they are somewhat unreliable and fiddley, but no more so than floppies or tapes were.

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

can you make money selling people bundles of

- an optical drive
- the cables they need to use it with their devices (and/or how to power it and add it to their home network)
- some initial content on optical drives

Years ago I snagged a USB optical drive (read / write capable) which has been a handy thing to own. Though now needs adapters for modern computers…

(Hmmm just had the don’t have time to explore idea of whether a raspberry pi or similar + optical drive combo makes sense)

in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

Got any good recommendations for an optical drive brand? I've been shipping around but am a little overwhelmed with the options out there.
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in reply to David (formerly Zalasur)

@zalasur if you're buying external, there are only three models. They get rebadged by everyone, but they are all basically identical. I don't have strong opinions beyond finding one of the few dozen models that supports the custom 4k ripping firmware for makeMKV.
in reply to pixx

I take that back; in bulk I see em for ~20 cents (100 packs for $20), but only from brands I've never heard of, and I'm uncertain how much I'd trust such a disk for longevity?
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

Optical media is potentially a little safer, too. I might be wrong, but I think it's a little harder to spread malware and viruses via CD-R or DVD-R than with a USB drive. Even though Sony got caught essentially distributing a rootkit on some CDs back in the early aughts, the user had to run and install the exe -- it wasn't automatic.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG…

in reply to Paul Riismandel

@mediageek the sony root kit absolutely was automatic, but wouldn't work anymore becuase autoexec is gone.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

Ah ha! Forgot about that. And because I haven't been a regular Windoze user for a dozen years, I didn't realize autoexec was gone.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

Galaxy brain idea: Make a special edition bundle with a limited edition USB DVD R/W drive (consumer model with a branded sticker slapped on it), easy 😜
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

that's a cool idea though. Maybe buy a bulk order of smaller micro SD cards? That could be cool.
in reply to Andrew (Television Executive)

You can still get low capacity flash drives somewhere (I think?), as basically high-capacity ones with bad sectors, formatted to only use the good bits. I know someone who had some, not sure where they got them though? Probably some dodgy retailer...
in reply to DHeadshot's Alt

@ddlyh amazon and ali have them. They're about $1/each and have a total failure rate over 1 in 10, closer to 1 in 5.

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