To block reposts from individual posters, add the following filter to “My filters”, replacing “poddomain” and “postername” with the pod domain, e.g. “diasp.org” and the postername with the name of the poster, e.g. John Doe
Reposting ensures exposure of both pods and posters to other pods and posters, just as following a poster does.
If any one wants to kill Diaspora - just encourage everybody to stop resharing - then everyone will be in their own tiny walled garden.
This becomes first apparent when one opens an account on several pods.
Looking at a poster - because one saw a reshare of that person’s post (or a comment from that poster) and one sees that the poster may have only one post - the one reshared - even no posts at all if one saw a comment from them.
Go to ones account on a different pod - eg the same pod as that of the poster - and one sees loads of posts from that poster!
It is important to understand how reposting and following a poster helps open up access to posts on other pods - this is the heart of diaspora federation.
Tags can search among the posts that your pod can already see; it doesn’t increase federation, but shows you what has already been federated to your pod.
Blocking people who make reposts is easy to do, even within D*. There are many accounts who do nothing but reposting, zero original material at all and those are easy to just "unwatch". Accounts that only repost generally only last a few weeks before they get abandoned anyway. Seeing the same post thirty times in your feed, day after day is probably one of the main reasons we have such a high account abandonment rate here on D*. The lack of original content and seeing the same thing over and over makes D* boring. My post here is to encourage people to post more original content.
I don't follow all the people who want me to follow them. I'd spend too much time every day with D* if I did. If I read a really good post, I might look at that person's recent posts, and if I see a lot of good stuff, I might follow that person.
Because I don't follow everyone, and because some people are not careful about tagging their posts, I would miss many posts I would like to see if people I follow didn't reshare them. With reshares, we share a curated selection of the posts we see with our friends. It's valuable.
It's actually rare for more than a few reshares of a single post to appear in my stream.
I'm not sure I've come across someone who does nothing but reshare, but I do get notices that people who have never posted or reshared are sharing with me. Maybe they're new and they just want a lot of "friends."
Reshares may be necessary for badly designed social media systems, but they're not a fundamental necessity for social media systems.
Usenet, the original federated social media system, for example, did A-OK without reshares. Usenet users would be extremely annoyed at anyone who reshared one of their posts (without asking), even if the sole purpose was to expand exposure in, say, another newsgroup -- it would be nearly as bad as plagiarism.
In fact reshares are a lazy, ignorant (in the literal sense), and obnoxious mechanism. Their value is extremely limited, and I would argue they do little to nothing for most of us to increase exposure to other posters in general, let alone other pods. They're also horribly badly implemented as-is here, as I discussed in a past post about this subject. Reshares should be a simple link back to the original post, and all comments and likes should be tied to the original post (on the original pod with all updates shared to all pods where reshares occur), perhaps with some mechanism to help identify which reshare a like or comment was started from. Even then they would still be highly obnoxious and ignorant.
Properly implemented tags would be a better idea, logically akin to newsgroups in many respects, but of course people don't use them well, and worst of all they're not "followable" (across pods). If tags were followable between pods they would do orders of magnitude more to improve visibility of users and posts between pods. I couldn't be more uninterested in 99.999% of what most people seem to think is worth resharing, but if I could see posts from neighbouring pods properly tagged with tags I find interesting then I'd be much happier.
usenet is excellent. Would make a good model for Diaspora. The usenet readers handle everything - scoring - which includes blocking - using regular expressions if you wish,- and all sorts of searches.
I just realized that the primary way I've been finding new interesting people to follow or even connect to is the same here as it was on Usenet: I see them make an intelligible and intelligent comment on a post by someone I already follow.
BTW Harry, your uBlock Origin filter can be simplified greatly (Thank You!):
Because I am following 1,331 accounts on D*, if anyone reposts something, I have already seen it, probably 30 times, too.
1,331! You're kidding! It must take you 5 hours every day just to read a day's worth of posts.
Also, I've never seen a post with as many as 30 reshares. Most posts in my stream have no reshares, and one with more than 2 reshares is no more than a once-a-day event.
I must say that I'm very very happy with no reshares appearing in my stream!
I had no idea the browser filter would be so simple.
I do realize and am sad about the possibility of not seeing all the comments on posts simply because they were made on reshared copies, but to me it's a very very small price to pay for a clean feed.
harry haller
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •without reposting, federation dies
If you don’t like reposts, use the browser extension ublock origin
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/?utm_content=addons-manager-reviews-link
To block reposts from individual posters, add the following filter to “My filters”, replacing “poddomain” and “postername” with the pod domain, e.g. “diasp.org” and the postername with the name of the poster, e.g. John Doe
poddomain##div.loaded.stream-element:has(div.reshare:has(div.bd:has(a.author-name:contains(postername))))becomes
diasp.org##div.loaded.stream-element:has(div.reshare:has(div.bd:has(a.author-name:contains(John Doe))))Reposting ensures exposure of both pods and posters to other pods and posters, just as following a poster does.
If any one wants to kill Diaspora - just encourage everybody to stop resharing - then everyone will be in their own tiny walled garden.
This becomes first apparent when one opens an account on several pods.
Looking at a poster - because one saw a reshare of that person’s post (or a comment from that poster) and one sees that the poster may have only one post - the one reshared - even no posts at all if one saw a comment from them.
Go to ones account on a different pod - eg the same pod as that of the poster - and one sees loads of posts from that poster!
It is important to understand how reposting and following a poster helps open up access to posts on other pods - this is the heart of diaspora federation.
Tags can search among the posts that your pod can already see; it doesn’t increase federation, but shows you what has already been federated to your pod.
uBlock Origin – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)
addons.mozilla.orgAdam Hunt
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Tek aEvl
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •David
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •I don't follow all the people who want me to follow them. I'd spend too much time every day with D* if I did. If I read a really good post, I might look at that person's recent posts, and if I see a lot of good stuff, I might follow that person.
Because I don't follow everyone, and because some people are not careful about tagging their posts, I would miss many posts I would like to see if people I follow didn't reshare them. With reshares, we share a curated selection of the posts we see with our friends. It's valuable.
It's actually rare for more than a few reshares of a single post to appear in my stream.
I'm not sure I've come across someone who does nothing but reshare, but I do get notices that people who have never posted or reshared are sharing with me. Maybe they're new and they just want a lot of "friends."
Greg A. Woods
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •Reshares may be necessary for badly designed social media systems, but they're not a fundamental necessity for social media systems.
Usenet, the original federated social media system, for example, did A-OK without reshares. Usenet users would be extremely annoyed at anyone who reshared one of their posts (without asking), even if the sole purpose was to expand exposure in, say, another newsgroup -- it would be nearly as bad as plagiarism.
In fact reshares are a lazy, ignorant (in the literal sense), and obnoxious mechanism. Their value is extremely limited, and I would argue they do little to nothing for most of us to increase exposure to other posters in general, let alone other pods. They're also horribly badly implemented as-is here, as I discussed in a past post about this subject. Reshares should be a simple link back to the original post, and all comments and likes should be tied to the original post (on the original pod with all updates shared to all pods where reshares occur), perhaps with some mechanism to help identify which reshare a like or comment was started from. Even then they would still be highly obnoxious and ignorant.
Properly implemented tags would be a better idea, logically akin to newsgroups in many respects, but of course people don't use them well, and worst of all they're not "followable" (across pods). If tags were followable between pods they would do orders of magnitude more to improve visibility of users and posts between pods. I couldn't be more uninterested in 99.999% of what most people seem to think is worth resharing, but if I could see posts from neighbouring pods properly tagged with tags I find interesting then I'd be much happier.
harry haller
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •Would make a good model for Diaspora.
The usenet readers handle everything - scoring - which includes blocking - using regular expressions if you wish,- and all sorts of searches.
Greg A. Woods
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •I just realized that the primary way I've been finding new interesting people to follow or even connect to is the same here as it was on Usenet: I see them make an intelligible and intelligent comment on a post by someone I already follow.
BTW Harry, your uBlock Origin filter can be simplified greatly (Thank You!):
diasp.org##div.loaded.stream-element:has(div.reshare)My stream is clear and cool running now!
harry haller
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •Adam Hunt
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Adam Hunt
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •David
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •1,331! You're kidding! It must take you 5 hours every day just to read a day's worth of posts.
Also, I've never seen a post with as many as 30 reshares. Most posts in my stream have no reshares, and one with more than 2 reshares is no more than a once-a-day event.
Adam Hunt
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •Greg A. Woods
in reply to Adam Hunt • • •I must say that I'm very very happy with no reshares appearing in my stream!
I had no idea the browser filter would be so simple.
I do realize and am sad about the possibility of not seeing all the comments on posts simply because they were made on reshared copies, but to me it's a very very small price to pay for a clean feed.