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I should state for the record that I think LLMs and other forms of AI have some valid and worthwhile uses, and that *none* of them should be tied to big tech or capitalism.

See things like:
- accessibility
- some types of research
- spell-check and predictive keyboards
- spam/scam filtering

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I agree, my nephew is using his own models ( as part of a serious research project ) to predict avian flu spread ( amongst many other pandemics ). They should absolutely be kept out of all creative activities ( other than as assistants ) and most definitely should not be centrally controlled or owned.
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@KayT A language model can't do that. LLMs have *no* legitimate uses. Some other things wrongly lumped under "AI" by AI stans do, but we should be rejecting that categorization as part of an agenda, not accepting it noncritically.
@KayT
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I think the relevant culprit is not AI, not even LLMs, it's the "Generative" part, so when the crap starts to output CONTENT, not just analysis results. Generating something from nothing is, in essence, alchemy, and from what I can say, generative ai is just about as much sharlatanery as alchemy's always been.
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I agree 100% AI, ML and LLMs (I have a local model) are my hobby. I believe that as long as hallucinations remain an unresolved problem, LLMs shouldn't be on search engines, news sources or anything where accuracy and facts are paramount. I love the tech, hate what tech bros have done with it.
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@autolycos time for libre office or to finally pick up TeX (or straight to LaTeX) I guess?
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I moved to linux a little while ago just because I liked tinkering and because my laptop kept having issues with Windows updates. But the more Microsoft does, the better I feel about it
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Please tell me this is made up. I'm starting to read posts on Microslop, so I'm guessing it is real, but I do have a tiny bit of hope that MICROS~1 didn't do something this stupid...

Ah, who am I kidding, this is Microsoft. In fact the same Microsoft of the free webmail service "Outlook", of the mail client "Outlook" and of the webmail for Exchange "Outlook", and I'm probably forgetting something else they've named "Outlook" too. So naming choices certainly aren't their strong suit.

#Microslop

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njsg

@draeath @autolycos I personally rarely use a tool like these in MS Office or LibO and, yeah, most of the time it's either plain text or \LaTeX.

(To me, the selling point is that I can work on "documents" in the text editor.)

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... also, dark blue on a dark background? (especially the image/icon on the second screenshot, but the heading on the first is also not really standing out much from the background)

Or is my display or GPU somehow mangling these colors?

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@njsg @draeath I used LaTex to write my CV a few years ago.

I had a peer review it and, well, I haven't touched LaTex since

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office was their biggest brand besides windows. Killing that brand for a AI app that not many people are interested in probably won't work out so well.

But it's a bold move... Just not a smart one imo

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So it's, like, a word processor, but it uses millions of gallons of water and more electricity than Belgium and is also wrong half the time. Cool.
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Oh my god, is that abstract graphic representing AI tying the office suite together a paperclip??!

Microslop 365 Copilot app (formerly Office): RETURN OF CLIPPY

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My company had to disable Teams video recording and transcription services bc of the copilot stuff, due to security concerns. It's been more than a year and we haven't gotten it back.

This stuff is being shoved down our throats and major organizations are unable to use it bc it's so unsafe. It's making these applications pure bloatware/malware.

Honestly, it's a good time for new developers to enter the space with non-enshittified products.

in reply to ylvie

not if you donโ€™t have Winblows, you donโ€™t. And youโ€™re a fool if youโ€™re still running Winblows.
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@rotsaruckz63 @sylvie I am so happy to have escaped that crap 10 years ago. but sometimes you cant avoid it or you will loose your job, sadly.

for example libre office still messes complex word documents with mixed tables, change tracking marks, and lots of styles and hierarchical chapters; for these I have word 2010 in a win10 vm, I rarely use it except for customer specs, most docs can be directly edited in libre office without messing them up.

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Also LibreOffice Dark mode is unusable in my opinion, and LibreOffice Help is only 47% translated into Swedish, and 49% into Japanese. It's great that free, open source options exist, but that doesn't mean it's accessible for all
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I had a bit of hope that it could create excel formulas for me. But this shit isn't even agentic as it seems. It's even more useless than I expected.
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C++ Wage Slave

There seems to be some confusion about whether it's real or not. This site insists that it's a misunderstanding rather than a rebranding of the whole office suite:

office-watch.com/2026/microsofโ€ฆ

@njsg

@njsg
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C++ Wage Slave

@njsg

I agree: Microsoft is terrible at naming things. Either it uses one name for everything (formerly Explorer, now Copilot) or it can't decide what one product is called for more than ten minutes at a time (Office being an obvious example).

@njsg
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this feels like โ€œNewspeakโ€ from 1984, but instead of reducing thought directly is by means of destroying real meaning
โ€œHey do you have Word?, the Office thingyโ€ now becomes โ€œdo you have a subscription to the Microsoft 360 copilot app Word with copilot? The agentic text editor with AIโ€
I truly believe no one truly think this is good, they just awestruck

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