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Very important poll ... Yes it's rare that I am serious

If your cis have you ever been missed gendered ?

I'm trying to prove something and this is scientific.

Boost, I need numbers ... Thank you

  • Yes (28%, 7 votes)
  • No (72%, 18 votes)
  • I'm trans {đź’śU} (0%, 0 votes)
25 voters. Poll end: in 2 days

in reply to Melissa BearTrix

You may want to add sex to your poll. I haven't (cisgender male) but my wife (cis female) has.

She's tall, and I think folks seeing her in peripheral vision just think tall=male.

in reply to Pseudo Nym

@pseudonym

I didn't want sex with my pole ... Giggles

Yeah I could, but that wasn't the point of the poll, I might add gender and do one like that at another date ... Hugz

Hugz & xXx

in reply to Melissa BearTrix

With me it was because of how I was dressed at the time & the fact that the guy had come & stood next to me at a deli counter without looking, & then said “”Sorry mate,” when he knocked me. I wouldn’t have batted an eyelid, except he then glanced at me & apologised, clearly embarrassed. (My hair was short, but my hips & chest clearly those of a woman!)

But the possibility of being misgendered in an aggressive or threatening manner has occurred to me. Transphobia is an extension of misogyny.

in reply to Melissa BearTrix

yes, as has been my husband.

They see my long arms, broad shoulders, big feet & with my hair tied up, think & say "man", this is especially common when I've a bulky sweatshirt on .....

& my husband now over 60 years young, has a full head of pretty short & very curly gray hair has been call "miss & ma'am" dozens of times in my presence... his feet are a full size smaller than mine even as he's a little taller than I am

in reply to Malka Beth

*This fact set BTW is why I don't like laws criminalizing misgendering people, trans or otherwise. It isn't a matter of my being supportive of bigotry, but it is a matter of my wanting a less litigious & fractured world, because I don't want others arrested nor fined for making mistakes against my husband nor I, nor do I want either of us to be arrested or fined for making mistakes on others.

Some days if this was a law - 6 people in a day would get this penalty over just my spouse & his handsome head of hair & he never finds this error worth more than a quick laugh of his.

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in reply to Looking for explanations…

I'm autistic & the number of times I've been accused of having "the wrong" or a "nasty tone" is more times than I can count (generally it's due to my being tired or in elevated pain levels & saying "hello" or after 1-3 times of masking words answering "how are you?" honestly), so I repeat, I don't want this speech available as an element of lawfare against poor &/or disabled people.

Aaaaand if it's a choice of accepting nasty comments, which I get anyways over my appearance anyways (generally related to my mobility aid use) or banning the comments & with them the real innocent mistakes, as I'm already getting "lawn too tall" tickets, banging on my door & threats of tickets, I'm sure someone will find a way to sue me for moving my eyes offensively on this too & put words in my mouth, I'll take the nasty comments!

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in reply to Malka Beth

@BrahmaBelarusian
Oh and I get that! I’m also autistic, and while my tone of voice is seldom problematic, I am sometimes misunderstood.

When I say nasty, I mean explicitly so. Like someone questioning my right to use a “ladies toilet”, the intention being to harass and intimidate.

in reply to Looking for explanations…

@Susan60 Again, I get false accusations all the time & I'm pretty much continually battling them as it is now, mostly over growing edible plants in my yard & having them called "grass too tall" (as if an onion stalk is really a blade of grass) and am I "really disabled without a phone I can use", more laws aren't going to fix any of that, it'll just give more weapons to the rich & other upper economic classes against those of us without the money or other resources to get attorneys nor readily pay the fines.

To your example:
Should my spouse who's got sizable vision trouble, saying absent mindedly "men's room is over there" before nearly dropping onto a nearby bench from fatigue really get ticketed, because someone thinks his almost falling as he walks is "aggressive"????

in reply to Malka Beth

@BrahmaBelarusian
I wouldn’t regard such a thing as egregiously nasty or intimidating. I realise laws can be misused, hence the need for them to be worded very carefully & clearly. There will always be people who make innocent, sometimes clumsy mistakes & I’m not interested in policing them.
in reply to Looking for explanations…

@Susan60 Fine, that's you, in not being among the worst, but I'm against these laws because I've seen how wording doesn't matter worth a darn.

If a poor person is sued or approached & fined they're likely to be physically assaulted by pigs/cops in that process -those being the only enforcement paths.

Overall Freedom of Speech is what's needed & enforcement of laws against actual harmful actions, regardless of economic class. Right now, we've got economic class based enforcement of all the laws, so until after that has changed, I want to see more laws repealed, not added.

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