Very important poll ... Yes it's rare that I am serious
If your cis have you ever been missed gendered ?
I'm trying to prove something and this is scientific.
Boost, I need numbers ... Thank you
- Yes (28%, 7 votes)
- No (72%, 18 votes)
- I'm trans {đź’śU} (0%, 0 votes)
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Pseudo Nym
in reply to Melissa BearTrix • • •You may want to add sex to your poll. I haven't (cisgender male) but my wife (cis female) has.
She's tall, and I think folks seeing her in peripheral vision just think tall=male.
Melissa BearTrix
in reply to Pseudo Nym • • •@pseudonym
I didn't want sex with my pole ... Giggles
Yeah I could, but that wasn't the point of the poll, I might add gender and do one like that at another date ... Hugz
Hugz & xXx
Looking for explanations…
in reply to Melissa BearTrix • • •With me it was because of how I was dressed at the time & the fact that the guy had come & stood next to me at a deli counter without looking, & then said “”Sorry mate,” when he knocked me. I wouldn’t have batted an eyelid, except he then glanced at me & apologised, clearly embarrassed. (My hair was short, but my hips & chest clearly those of a woman!)
But the possibility of being misgendered in an aggressive or threatening manner has occurred to me. Transphobia is an extension of misogyny.
Malka Beth
in reply to Melissa BearTrix • • •yes, as has been my husband.
They see my long arms, broad shoulders, big feet & with my hair tied up, think & say "man", this is especially common when I've a bulky sweatshirt on .....
& my husband now over 60 years young, has a full head of pretty short & very curly gray hair has been call "miss & ma'am" dozens of times in my presence... his feet are a full size smaller than mine even as he's a little taller than I am
Malka Beth
in reply to Malka Beth • • •*This fact set BTW is why I don't like laws criminalizing misgendering people, trans or otherwise. It isn't a matter of my being supportive of bigotry, but it is a matter of my wanting a less litigious & fractured world, because I don't want others arrested nor fined for making mistakes against my husband nor I, nor do I want either of us to be arrested or fined for making mistakes on others.
Some days if this was a law - 6 people in a day would get this penalty over just my spouse & his handsome head of hair & he never finds this error worth more than a quick laugh of his.
Looking for explanations…
in reply to Malka Beth • • •Innocent mistakes are fine. Nasty accusations?
Malka Beth
in reply to Looking for explanations… • • •I'm autistic & the number of times I've been accused of having "the wrong" or a "nasty tone" is more times than I can count (generally it's due to my being tired or in elevated pain levels & saying "hello" or after 1-3 times of masking words answering "how are you?" honestly), so I repeat, I don't want this speech available as an element of lawfare against poor &/or disabled people.
Aaaaand if it's a choice of accepting nasty comments, which I get anyways over my appearance anyways (generally related to my mobility aid use) or banning the comments & with them the real innocent mistakes, as I'm already getting "lawn too tall" tickets, banging on my door & threats of tickets, I'm sure someone will find a way to sue me for moving my eyes offensively on this too & put words in my mouth, I'll take the nasty comments!
Looking for explanations…
in reply to Malka Beth • • •@BrahmaBelarusian
Oh and I get that! I’m also autistic, and while my tone of voice is seldom problematic, I am sometimes misunderstood.
When I say nasty, I mean explicitly so. Like someone questioning my right to use a “ladies toilet”, the intention being to harass and intimidate.
Malka Beth
in reply to Looking for explanations… • • •@Susan60 Again, I get false accusations all the time & I'm pretty much continually battling them as it is now, mostly over growing edible plants in my yard & having them called "grass too tall" (as if an onion stalk is really a blade of grass) and am I "really disabled without a phone I can use", more laws aren't going to fix any of that, it'll just give more weapons to the rich & other upper economic classes against those of us without the money or other resources to get attorneys nor readily pay the fines.
To your example:
Should my spouse who's got sizable vision trouble, saying absent mindedly "men's room is over there" before nearly dropping onto a nearby bench from fatigue really get ticketed, because someone thinks his almost falling as he walks is "aggressive"????
Looking for explanations…
in reply to Malka Beth • • •I wouldn’t regard such a thing as egregiously nasty or intimidating. I realise laws can be misused, hence the need for them to be worded very carefully & clearly. There will always be people who make innocent, sometimes clumsy mistakes & I’m not interested in policing them.
Malka Beth
in reply to Looking for explanations… • • •@Susan60 Fine, that's you, in not being among the worst, but I'm against these laws because I've seen how wording doesn't matter worth a darn.
If a poor person is sued or approached & fined they're likely to be physically assaulted by pigs/cops in that process -those being the only enforcement paths.
Overall Freedom of Speech is what's needed & enforcement of laws against actual harmful actions, regardless of economic class. Right now, we've got economic class based enforcement of all the laws, so until after that has changed, I want to see more laws repealed, not added.
Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Melissa BearTrix • •