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Since I get asked a lot about how I got into lockpicking, I figured I'd make a big ol' post about it.

Well, I have the nerdiest backstory for this skill.
So without further ado...

First, the setup:

I helped make 5th Ed. D&D.
I regularly played in a campaign with friends.
I often played some sort of lovable rogue.
I also roll natural 1s *way* too often.
This became a running joke in-game.

Next, the inciting event:

One day, after rolling a natural 1 and failing to pick a lock on a chest, setting off a trap, and then getting taken to death's door by said trap, I decided I was going to figure out how hard it would be to do IRL (with modern locks and homemade tools, which I figured would be *way* more difficult than medieval locks).

So, after game, I drove home, grabbed my kid, and said we're going to the hardware store for SCIENCE!

Now, somewhere in the back of my head was the notion that street sweeper bristles were suitable for making lockpicks (probably from reading the Anarchist's Cookbook, Poor Man's James Bond, or something like that as a little kid). So we looked in the gutters along our walk to the hardware store and managed to find two bristles by the time we got there. I bought like $50 worth of assorted locks, and we walked home.

Once home, I watched a YouTube video just to see what the tools they were using looked like, and then found a small file and some pliers, and made a simple lockpick and turning tool. Then I set to figuring out what the heck I was doing through trial and error.

By the end of the night, I'd opened all of the locks I bought (at least once), and I had my answerโ€”a professional rogue with decent tools should succeed at picking most common medieval locks about as often as they succeed at tying their shoes.

Unbeknownst to me, I'd rolled my own natural 1 on my save vs. falling down the rabbit hole. So now, a decade later, I've taught at conferences, placed in tournaments, been sponsored by a security company, created (and eventually deleted) my own locksport YouTube channel, and have hundreds of locks in my bedroom. Over the years, I branched out to all sorts of locksport-adjacent skills, but picking is still my favorite, and I regularly teach new folx how to pick locks and improvise tools.

So that's it. That's how being a total nerd led me to discover what turned out to be one of my biggest passions in lifeโ€”defeating other folx' security for fun.

Pictured: (left) my first turning tool, (right) my first lockpick.

#DnD #DIY #Locksport #OriginStory

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in reply to ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)

The next most common question I get is "how do I get started?"

So...

redteamtools.com/learn-about-lโ€ฆ

At about $125, it's a solid kit with everything you need to go from absolute beginner to moderately skilled picker (you'll want to acquire more locks eventually, but those'll cover you for a while).

The book, written by my friend, and all around great guy, @deviantollam is really good. There are a few typos in the foreword, but all the info, diagrams, explanations, and topics covered are excellent. Highly recommend.

Also, if you happen to be in or around the Seattle area and want hands-on with me, I'd be happy to teach you. Just reach out to me on Signal and we'll find a time ๐Ÿ˜Š

#LearnLockpicking

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I have a question born of my professional experience if you are willing:
Are CORMAX locks more challenging to pick than ordinary retail padlocks or do institutions buy them purely because the cores can be swapped?
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in reply to Weird Socks

@ohmu Principally, the uniqueness of Cormax has to do with their proprietary keyways and trying to make it more challenging for people to make unauthorized copies of keys.

Yes, there are a challenge to pick. But that's mostly due to the fact that they are an IC core system with multiple shear lines. (Plus the addition of some extra teeny element way in the back of the cylinder)

If you consider a conventional BEST SFIC to be maybe a 6 out of 10, I would call this a seven or 8.

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@deviantollam i have looked at that kit a couple of times but one thing has stopped me so far and I thought now that I could ask here if anybody can help me with it.

I live in Sweden, does anyone know if there are big differences between locks in the US and locks in Europe/Sweden?

I want to be relatively sure that what I learn can be used in my area as well and not only if I go to the US.

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@Daj @deviantollam

I bought it last month.

Costs (For Europeans):

Kit/Book: โ‚ฌ156,02 (incl. Shipping to the Netherlands via UPS -the default option-)
Tax: โ‚ฌ40,59

Total: โ‚ฌ196,61

in reply to ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)

@deviantollam Would you know of anyone in the EU or nearby who sells similar kits/tools? With shipping costs, import duties/tariffs and the possibility of customs looking askance at oneโ€™s hobby, ordering a $125 kit from the US sounds like it might not be the easiest way in.
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@acb @Deviant Ollam I do not have anywhere near @๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)'s experience, but I started off with this kit. It's not in the EU, but it does ship from Canada, so you at least wouldn't need to deal with US customs.

Note: we're having rotating postal strikes here, so maybe don't go with the Canada Post shipping option.

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What's your favorite 5e class? Personally I like druids.

Editing to say I realize you answered my question in your post. I should learn to read.

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Once my employer found the nightshift tech (me) knew how to do locks, they made me do all the re-keying and lock repairs in the offices. But I've seen the professional locksmiths in town do their work and they can do it a magnitude faster than me, re-keying over ten locks an hour!
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I recall finding the most impressive goldmine of sweeper bristles ever back in Somerville, MA - an entire sweeper head had come off and was lying in the gutter. Hundreds of potential tools lying amongst the autumn leaves.

It was too big and pokey to try and haul home, but it looks like it would be very useful for making lots of fun things.

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When I was in 5th grade I wore a headgear. I discovered that the back end of the headgear (not the side that went into my mouth, rather the side that hooked to the strap that went around my head) was perfect for lock picking any door at my elementary school. That is the extent of my lock picking.
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This story is beautiful, thank you for sharing with us. And yes, as someone who played pen&paper rpgs for like 30 years now I can absolutely relate to that thought process. Now I have two things left to so.

1) I need to share this with some buddys of mine who play rpgs with me. They will love it, too!

2) I think I need a few locks, a spanner and some picks...

in reply to ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)

question! Has having the skill ever saved you any trouble? For example have you been locked out of the house and because you had the skills you were able to get in?
in reply to ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)

Fun fact: Those locks on steamer trunks can be easily opened using the fish-scaler on a Swiss Army knife.

The end of the fish-scaler is shaped just like the key for those. You aren't even picking the lock, it's just like using the key.

@alice

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I'm still stuck on apprentice. Can't quite get the timing down I guess and keep breaking the damn lockpick and running out. If the lock says anything above Novice I figure I'm screwed. I'm probably never getting into that pointy fortress on the mountain.
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Awesome story and great to hear you are successful!
With regards to rolling 1s (or not making the roll in general), I too was irritated by the consequences the result had for the narrative (see The Gamers).
My solution was this: A bad roll either means that the lock is too jammed, rusted etc. (establishing the fact forever), or that the character just needs a longer time than usual. So no more "you failed", instead "it wasn't possible anyway, the dice just said so".
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I have a similar story. Way back, when war driving was just getting started, someone posted pictures of lock picks on a forum. Lock picks were pricey and not readily available to buy. I found an old windshield wiper blade and used the metal strip inside to make a tension bar and snake based on those pictures.
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any tips for not oversetting pins? at least I think thatโ€™s my problem. sometime I give up and when i let tension off I hear four pins. Itโ€™s this same brass Master padlock I mentioned the other day. What else could it be?
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oh, I get counter rotation on the first pin. Iโ€™m guessing thats a spool pin. Maybe that oneโ€™s only getting partially set.
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I'm sorry you had so much to deal with!
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Thank you for a very fun and interesting story of falling down a nerd rabbit hole.

I got locked out of my apartment, it cost me many hours, several hundred dollars, and I barely avoided having the "locksmith" drill the lock. The money was the least offensive part - the guy represented himself as a professional locksmith, charged that kind of money, and couldn't bypass a straightforward residential lock without a drill? I vowed never to be in a position like that again or at least learn enough to change my mind that this guy wasn't as incompetent as I believed. I still suck at picking locks and I put it down to just not practicing (and not cheating well enough). ๐Ÿ˜€

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Longspeak

Hell, I just thought you were cute, and funny, and maybe a little dangerous. But you're also awesome!

Okay... I already knew that too

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@arrrg Rule Number 1: Only break into stuff you have permission to break into ๐Ÿ˜ #90DaysInCountyIsNoWayToGoThroughLife
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@sashin Given that I have ADHD and resorted to putting a second set of keys in a landlord's lockbox on my front doorknob, lockpicking would be a useful skill for my ADHD having ass.
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this is so fucking epic!!
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okay, I am going to write this Alice fanfictionโ€ฆyou need to send me all the euphemistic lockpicking phrases and sentences you can think of ๐Ÿคญ
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@arclight @arrrg
In most cities, the powers that be will thank you for picking love locks (and removing them) because then they don't have to send a crew out with angle grinders.
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johne
yes, is a master 140. solid brass body. ty!
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@๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„) @johne Wait, the 140 has a security pin? My trust in Master locks just took another blow.

Edit: I guess that explains why I sometimes have to take multiple runs at opening it.

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"Drill first" also means that (for the average customer) all the spare keys inside (and with other trusted people) are now useless, and the locksmith gets to sell extra copies aswell as whatever comes with the new lock.
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Oh, sorry about that. I need to find a different word. Because 'man' sometimes doesn't work either LOL
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@JoscelynTransient
I will never be able to look at a bubblegum machine with a straight face again.
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Scarlet Phoenix Collective

LOL Those are good suggestions. Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜€ Now to rewire the brain...

PS: damn these light ass linears LOL

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Si Dawson
**perfect** response.
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Si Dawson

So much confusion and complexity! In such a small space!

And then... learn a bit, learn a bit more...

and suddenly it all falls into mathematically delightful beauty. With a little extra skill required - just for fun.

What's not to love?

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@deviantollam How comprehensive is this set? ยฃ40 does seem like a good price
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I LOVE THIS! ๐Ÿ˜
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@Daj @deviantollam yep. I often try to avoid buying in the US, which is hard if you've lived there for seven years. But this was a special thing and your recommendation. ๐Ÿ˜€
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@Daj @deviantollam I'm having a great time. I almost finished the book, and I'm "inconsistently" picking the 3 and 4-pin practice ones. The hardest part is exercising restraint when using any kind of force with the tools. The tensioner tool being the "key"(no pun intended), but also with the lockpick of choice. The 3d printed holder is ok, but I screwed it to a piece of wood for better "gripability".

I'm trying to hear and feel the pins, a good thing to do during "meetings". ๐Ÿ˜€

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