The problem with saying "Linux doesn't work" is that it's incorrect.
Folks are always surprised to hear that I've been doing music, videos, and gaming on Linux for decades.
Biggest thing is that I *only* buy hardware that works on Linux, and I *only* use software that works on Linux.
What you mean when you say "Linux doesn't work" is that "Linux doesn't work for me." But that's not rage-baity enough to attract attention.
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Torger Åge Sinnes
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •A problem I have with every "I tried Linux for two weeks and could never make it work" video thing is that folks position themselves as the default, everyday computer user.
But they're not! Jeeze folks! They're already knee deep in Windows/Mac software if they have a YouTube channel where they make videos on Windows/Mac!
These folks have production workflows that they don't want to change. If that's not you, you can disregard their rage-bait!
Rachel Rawlings
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I don't "make Linux and FOSS work for me." Years ago, I *chose* to work with Linux and FOSS.
I just switched, and if things required Windows or a Mac, I didn't do those things. I did other things instead.
My priorities welcomed that choice. Yours might not. That's OK! But it doesn't mean Linux can't do it.
It'd be like saying "my bicycle can't haul a tractor, therefore bicycles are worthless." You'd sound absurd. That's what they do. Because rage sells.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Murat
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Folks are in my comments trying to rage bait in response to my critique of (checks notes) rage bait.
Folks: don't buy it
G Allen
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •The more people that use Linux, write software that works on Linux and fund Linux, the more Linux can do.
It’s kind of a self fulfilling prophecy really.
Rozzychan
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •More like my compact car can't hall a refrigerator.
I find I can do most things I need on Linux. The commercial things are such a hassle with their surveillance and their evil terms of service.
Veronica Explains
in reply to Rozzychan • • •Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I use Linux since 2012 on the computer, since 2015 on the phone.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Absolutely agree with you and this is one of the most sane takes on switching to linux i've seen here lately.
I've used linux for 26+ years now, but i own musical instruments and camera gear that require firmware updates that can only be done with Windows or a Mac. I have to still dual boot but 99.9% of my life is booted into linux, happily.
It's hardware i own, want to use and isn't compatible with linux for those updates. Beyond that everything else i do is in linux.
Q. Edwards
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Reay
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •@mayintoronto Well put.
I’m determined to get Linux going for the first time.
My old laptop balked a bit at my first attempted Mint installation.
But you your point, it never even occurred to me that it was a “Linux fail” situation as much as me making an error somewhere and just being up for trying it again.
Richard Levitte
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Seconding this as hard as I can. Not mastering Linux in 2 weeks when you've had decades invested in learning Windows is just a silly comparison.
The one bit of grace I will give them is that modern lives require us to have a heck of a lot more uptime than computing in the early 2000s. It's hard to learn something new while having to keep up with ~life~. That's why my go-to recommendation for newbies is pick any distro - but try it out in VirtualBox for a while.
Martin Ringot
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Before switching to Linux, I thought of everything I had to change in how I use a computer. And there were a lot. Microsoft-based drive, office applications, habits, gaming device, etc.
One by one, I'm replacing them with open source or self-hosted alternatives and working hard to make them work.
Linux not working the same way as Windows is actually a good thing. It made me totally change my views on computers and how they fit into my life.
Steven Rosenberg
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •When the inevitable complaints about not being able to run Adobe This, or MS That come up in these kinds of posts, we've all heard that song before. It's not a relevant point for most of us.
With so much software moving to the browser, Linux is in a position to be equal to or better than Windows/Mac, and if the few major application giants that remain want to lose a generation (or three) of mindshare for their proprietary products, that's on them.
Jonathan Lamothe
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David Cohen
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •@ianbetteridge That would be fine if so many Linux people were not constantly exhorting those same Windows/Mac users to switch to Linux ALL THE TIME.
It is not easy. That is the point being made. Many people have no interest in doing that, because they don’t care about the spirit or aspirations behind Linux. They just want to get their shit done.
Veronica Explains
in reply to David Cohen • • •it's kind of a generalization you're painting here. If I judged all Windows users based on the 1% or less who make fun of me in the comments, I'd think Windows users were all heartless and cruel.
Every affinity group has its obnoxious types. What gets me is overgeneralization of everyone.
David Cohen
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in reply to David Cohen • • •David Cohen
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I feel the objective of the producer depends on the particular video and can’t always be known. Some will be rage bait, some will reflect an actual experience. That goes back to your valid over-generalisation point.
I have been in IT for 40 years & can find Linux rough, depending on what I am doing. I recognise that’s my lack of experience, not that it doesn’t work. It’s misleading not to point that out - but so is breezily handwaving issues away, which also happens a lot. Nuance!
Programmer 832-529 🍅
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •attero
in reply to Kev Quirk • • •here's my rant if you're in the mood for one: mastodon.social/@attero/115771…
attero (@attero@mastodon.social)
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in reply to Mr. V • • •my favorite part about all of them is that they treat it like it's some big revelation. i.e. "you guys! I forced myself to use linux for 30 days and I found out that it's not Windows at all!"
CC: @vkc@linuxmom.net
Matt Mascarenhas
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •HP van Braam
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •yeah, people will "try Linux" on whatever piece of garbage old machine they have laying about and then complain that the hardware isn't as well supported as a MacBook with macOS...
I've also used Linux exclusively for everything I do for decades, I totally agree with you.
You really don't need Windows/macOS for daily life if you just choose not to use it.
Henri Verymetaldev
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •серафими многоꙮчитїи
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •"checking before you buy for linux support" is a massive invisible gap - I've been doing it since Radeon had open source support and NVidia didn't*, and my experience of Linux is pretty solid "it just works" , but I can see how other people could have the opposite experience
* I'm not old, I'm vintage
Jonathan Lamothe
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Oriel Jutty
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Six reasons Linux doesn't work:
William Shatner couldn't find me on Linux.
This is a problem.
eladnarra
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Christof Damian 💙💛
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Same for me, in fact: Windows/Mac doesn't work for me
- Windows/Mac doesn't run on my hardware
- Mac support for containers sucks
- Mac gaming isn't great
- Windows/Mac UI is weird and constantly changing
- Windows/Mac software updates are all over the place
- Most devices and services are running on Linux already, why use some niche product?
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Tim Chase
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •@vkc: Part of the joy of Linux is discovering which hardware it supports. I bought a pair of Beelink mini PCs last year. There was no information on the possibility of Linux running on them. They run Kubuntu better than any other hardware I've put it on.
So, yeah, Linux is fun.
Paul Kater - Antifa
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •fisher
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •You're absolutely right. When I was kinda advocated linux to my collegues in late 90's it was always like that - "How can I run Photoshop on your Linux? How can I run WinAmp on this?" though the questions actually were "how can I edit graphics" and "how can I listen to my music".
Since then everything became even more easy for an end-user, sometimes I miss good old days where you have to understand your system better than just "install it and use it". Low entry barrier is not good somtimes
Linuxon
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Je contrôle également la compatibilité avant un achat.
J'ai un serveur ou j'ai toutes les alternative des GAFAM hébergé chez moi.
Albert Hickey
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •That’s when I realised I had a learner workflow and so when I did Linux I just used GIMP and Inkscape. Knowing they could do what I wanted to and it was just for me to learn a new workflow.
Albert Hickey
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Also, remember reading a thing about learning specific software in schools. As in Word instead learning about a Word processor.
For most by time they are in the workforce and using the software in anger the version they learned has changed a lot because of regular updates.
Making switching from Word to LibreOffice Writer easier.
Still don’t get with Macs.
Mahura
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Vivekanandan KS
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •🔥. New things aren't always comfortable sometimes. But u gotta stick with it until u surpass the so called reality which is just ur understanding.
When u learn to ride bicycle, u know 100% that u might fall. But still those who stick to it even after falling, adapts to it. Thinking it's hard is irrelevant. It's what u love or not. And u have to improve awareness to understand what u want love and what others made u think u love something or compulsion. Awareness helps
#linux #awareness
Waseem
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Wait, linux doesn't work on some hw? That's news.
I believe that we live in an era in which linux works with the vast majority of the existing hw, old and new. Commercial shitOS are extremely limited to a subset of what is sold today.
A few hours earlier I heard a guy selling a MIDI master keyboard because its USB driver wouldn't work anymore on W11.
sammypanda
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •satire
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I’m gonna need more popcorn, as no one told me this thread was a double feature! I especially like the part where the user thinks the desktop itself is Linux and is oblivious that everything can be custom made to their tastes, including running .exe files.
#humor #joy #GeekPower #keyboardFights #mouseButtonFight #shellFights #WhatDoYouMeanItRunsSteam #UseAllYourMemory #RunMultipleThingsActivelyWithoutConcern
Alexandre Oliva
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •nod
"Linux doesn't work," says (paraphrased) its primary author, "you also need GNU to get a usable system." 😉
kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Hi…
or maybe
"Linux doesn't work. It does what it does just for fun." 😉
Neguuy
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Quinn Norton
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Quinn Norton • •@Quinn Norton @Veronica Explains You're far from the first person I've heard this from. It's not something I've personally had to deal with, so I can only say what I've heard.
I would be very happy to be proven wrong on this.
Elias Mårtenson
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Likewise, I have tried Windows for a long time (I use it at work), and I can honestly say that Windows's doesn't work (for me).
I could possibly make Windows work, but that would be a hassle, and there are no upsides.
WylieCoyoteUK
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I used to work in IT support before I retired, but all of my personal computers have been Linux based since 2005, although we mostly ran Windows desktops at work.
In fact I saved my company a load of cash by running a Linux firewall, a Redhat database server, and a NetBSD backup server.
Our Helpdesk software was open-source on Linux...so was our VOIP Telephone exchange.