Debian is fine.
Folks like to complain that the packages are too old, but Flatpak makes that not even a thing anymore for most of us.
You know what I like? That I can pull out a laptop I haven't touched in three weeks and there's little that needs updating.
Debian? It's fine. If you like it, you're fine too.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Whenever I feel bored I run pacman -Syu and most of the time nothing changes. A bit like playing the lottery but for free!
(sometimes something breaks. Then I get to invent a solution. Not exactly like winning the lottery but at least it creates ... erm ... emotions?)
Sylvhem
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •William Shotts
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •And it still supports 32 bit!
Running a lot of #debian 12 / Plasma around here.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I just grow tired of comment after comment on my videos picking on Debian for being stable.
"How do you like running Plasma 5.27?"
Just fine. Have you seen Plasma 5? It's still pretty awesome!
Nathan A. Stine
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Chris Were ⁂🐧🌱☕
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •No argument from me.
I need some kind of stability on my ThinkPad. And I never needed any Flatpaks or Snaps... Generally I rarely need the newest features. I script many things in bash and my filemanager is mc.
I think it's a matter of personal preferences. Some people like it rolling, others like it stable. That's fine.
retrotechtive
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •to me, unchanging is a strength. Aside from security fixes, I have no desire for the latest updates unless I specifically need them for a package I actually use. Stability is much more important to me than new features.
In short, maybe I should be using Debian 😎
Gabriele Svelto
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Rocco Dimase
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •"You know what I like? That I can pull out a laptop I haven't touched in three weeks and there's little that needs updating."
Agree, the constant updates on Windows is like a form of malware that stops you using your computer when you want to use it, or even shutting it down when you want to.
Jettisoned
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I think Debian is more than fine. Honestly, one of the best traits about Linux community is "to each his own." Personally, I am a proponent of Mint as my "it just works" distro. And Antix makes even a 32 bit potato usable, especially for writing. Find hardware you like running a distro you like and experiment as much as you want.
#Debian #mint #antix
Joshua Dunham
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I moved to Debian from Ubuntu because the extensive use of snaps in Ubuntu creates problems. Bughunting is more difficult with snaps and as snaps are used even for basic functionalities such as printing or browser, the amount of bughunting has grown.
The nastiest thing: people hanging on Ubuntu IRC support channel say simply "A problem with snap, not a Ubuntu package. Report to the maintainer of the snap." even if the snap would be from Ubuntu repositories.
There's no hope left for Ubuntu with this development. Ignorance is not a bliss on this field.
SignalEleven
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I was probably a snotty judgmental teenager (and probably young adult). I wonder what some people get out of carrying that attitude through life.
Knut
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Debian has always been the most stable system I have ever used
It's a good one to settle on, and that's coming from a Fedora user
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •@vkc On Debian stable, I prefer using Guix as a second package manager to FlatPak whenever possible. They have much more fine-grained deduplication of package dependencies than FlatPak, and also make it easier to build the latest versions of many software from source. It is command-line only though, so I can’t recommend it to non-power-users.
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While Guix is a great tool for development/system management (especially with Guix System,) I think you need to know your use case for it to make sense. You kind of need to be aware of the value in reproducible environments and systems in your workflow.
For a user who just wants to get the app they want to use, Flatpak is really remarkable, and I find it really convenient that I can just tell my friends to get whatever they need from GNOME Software or Discover.
Guix would be hard to integrate with a GUI while keeping the benefits, I think. Not that it's not possible, but configuration as code is its strongest aspect, and that means that it needs some programming skills, and we're not in a place where we can expect everyone to be able to do that.