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USA wants to ban connected cars from China - electrive.com

The US Department of Commerce has proposed banning important Chinese software and hardware in connected vehicles on US roads for national security reasons.
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I wish we (USA) would ban connected cars from USA also.

I like that my car has no telemetry.

I dislike that nearly every new car has telemetry, and that disabling the telemetry is difficult, probably voids the warranty, and may prevent the car from working at all.

No new cars for me.

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@brouhaha Just pull the SIM out.
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@alexr
In the 2004 vehicle I had with Onstar, I pulled the fuse for the Onstar unit. Things are more tightly integrated now, in some cases such that there's no unit which can be removed or powered down without rendering the car undrivable. The SIM is now just bits buried deeply inside something. Disconnecting antennas is still possible, but some cars eventually refuse to run.
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@brouhaha My last few cars all had removable SIMs. The automakers are still trying to pass along the cost of the data plan to the customers after a few years, so a replaceable SIM is a requirement.
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@alexr They now can replace them over the air, just like most current cellphones. No physical sim is needed even to change carrier. They can pass along the data charges to you without incurring the cost of both a SIM and a SIM slot. Naturally they pass the savings on to their shareholders.
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@brouhaha I'll let you know when I buy a car that has no SIM slot. Right now, they all do because they used outdated hardware to save money. (My 2022 Polestar 2 has an underpowered 2016 Atom A3900-series in it.)
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@alexr I don't know specific makes and models, but someone who works in auto repair told me about the SIM-less ones. This is obviously just hearsay, not confirmed. It is technically possible and reduces cost, so it's likely to become common in the future.
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@alexr My 2004 GM vehicles had no SIM, because they used AMPS. GM at Some point notified me that service was going walkway, and that there was no fix. Some 2005 and likely all 2006 GM vehicles used GSM with a SIM.
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@brouhaha Yeah, my 1997 Corvette didn't have a SIM either. 😛

Every car I've bought since 2016 has, however:
• Volvo XC90 T8
• Mercedes B250e
• Polestar 2
• Kia EV9

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