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It always drives me nuts to see a YouTube video with high production values - excellent expensive cameras, careful cinematography, vibrant tone mapping - and then they have automatic subtitles.

Just extend that commitment to excellence a TINY bit farther and either author subtitles or hire a caption service. We've hired professional caption services at work a few times when we needed live captions and they're shockingly affordable.

yeah it always bothers me this is like rule number one about subtitling shit, you subtitle it exactly as it is

you dont correct grammar, you dont censor words you dont like, it is your job to just transcribe what you hear into text

bugs me so much when people take different approaches

-carrie

THIS!!
My partner and I have auditory processing disorders and need subtitles. The fucking [__] bullshit just means I can’t understand what they’re saying!!

Nevermind when it’s wrong and that wasn’t profanity at all!

This rhymes in mirror to the issue that AAC users (people with limited ability to communicate with spoken speech and instead rely on word-boards, etc.) often have to fight for,

the ability for AAC tools and setups to have rude or ugly or uncomfortable or sexual vocabulary available as words they are structurally able to, like, say.

(e.g. this section of this post, sorry I can't find a full essay talking entirely about it particularly:
communicationfirst.org/dear-pa…
)

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OMG!! And like, the one-word-at-a-time popping up is pretty difficult to read. I'm not deaf but I like subtitles to be able to understand people easier.

I miss when YouTube had community captions

and in other languages it gets weird too, for instance the word pédale in french is censored too since it can be used as a slur depending on context. but because of the context needed for it, it can be totally unrelated to being a slur, like a bike pedal, a car accelerator pedal etc
so watching car videos can be pretty weird in french like "a peine je presse la ______ la voiture repond!" (tl: "as soon as i press the ______ the car responds")

it sucks so bad and it's impossible to follow stuff sometimes because of that dumb puritan behavior...

I'm not using YouTube (big tech hater here) but when I did, many videos beeped-out any swearwords. Are subtitles also blanked out in cases where the swearing is *not* beeped-out in the audio-track? I seem to remember that many YouTubers self-censor to avoid having their content demonetized.

In any case, subtitles are extremely useful and should not have anything that was said censored. That's just ridiculous....

It is even worse for Ukrainian language, some cusses are censored and some are not. Also, Ukrainian has grammatical genders and grammatical cases, so it almost always makes mistakes there as well. And «mishearing» words in unexpected ways, like combining two words into one non-existing word!

Also, because @GIMP was given a really horrible name, it is censored out of subtitles as well. Like, come on, we could have existed in a universe where Linux is called Freax, why can't we live in one where the most popular Linux program for editing images has a sensible name?? It is as easy as removing the «P»! GNU Image Manipulator! Problem solved!

It's not even consistent: some words like "shitty" slip through the cracks so whatever Youtube is trying to do isn't even working to the fullest extent.

Also iirc if there is no [ __ ], there is no word in place at all instead. Sure, some swears are filler and can be removed without compromising the meaning of a sentence, but oftentimes it breaks up the grammar and it makes me worried that some stuff being said isn't making it into the captions.

The logic of censoring the caption when the audio is uncensored just makes absolutely no sense.

Small children can hear and repeat the words long before they can read them so they're not being "protected" from swearing.

The only people this affects are Deaf people and people watching in another language with auto-translated captions which is extremely rude.

On top of that, it *still* can't handle more than a narrow range of American accents worth a damn, so it throws in random censorship where the original word was fine (and sometimes where the original word did not remotely sound like a swearword to me).

And they also trip on such things as 'random animal noises that don't even sound at all speech-like' and 'random background noise' and 'instrumental music track'.

(And it's terrible at detecting languages too - I think it must go on whatever the uploader has stated? - so it tries to apply English subtitles to sections of audio that are very clearly not in English.)

Compared to the speed and ridiculousness of the copyright-detection tools? I guess we can see where the priorities are.