One thing I wish folks knew better about "Linux" that the annoying evangelists never seem to care to mention.
One of the most important differences from other platforms if *how you get your software*.
You don't download it from the author/publisher who might be (these days, is) bundling malware.
You don't get it from a walled garden with commercial incentives to let publishers hurt you.
You don't have to fumble around Google trying to find if the site offering it is reputable.
You get it from a party, usually made up of dedicated volunteers, who believe in the platform and who are vetting all the software they build and package for you. Usually the same one you got your base system from.
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Cassandrich
in reply to Cassandrich • • •The threat of Mozilla is so much different when you're running Windows with Mozilla's auto-updater installed, or using snaps from Mozilla on Ubuntu (a distro that abdicated its role), or whatever on MacOS, etc.
Versus running a real Linux distro where the same people you trusted to put together a base system that works in your interests are also the ones building and shipping the Firefox source and able to omit anything exceedingly harmful before it gets to you.
Clutha🏴🇸🇩🇺🇦
in reply to Cassandrich • • •oldguycrusty
in reply to Clutha🏴🇸🇩🇺🇦 • • •I cannot answer that question directly.
However, I have recent success running Linux-Lite on a 20 year old MacPro.. It was the only distro I found that would Recognize the ancient broadcom Wi-Fi cards in the MacPro.
There are likely others, but to check it out:
linuxliteos.com/
I made a bootable DVD to explore before doing the dual- boot install.
I have the luxury of another Internal drive where I can install without compromising the old IOS boot sector..
Linux Lite - Simple, Fast, and User-Friendly
www.linuxliteos.comKinene⭐🐻
in reply to oldguycrusty • • •@oldguycrusty @Clutha I use anti-X because it runs on really old laptops (ThinkPad T23!) and also on a 2013 iMac.
It isn't as glitzy as some other distros, and it doesn't use systemd or wayland.
For the record, anti-X runs on the following:
ThinkPad T23 (1 gb /20 gb)
ThinkPad X240 (8 gb / 320 gb)
Acer Chromebook (2 gb /19 gb)
iMac (16 gb/ 1tb)
Intel NUC (4 gb /50 gb)
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oldguycrusty
in reply to Kinene⭐🐻 • • •'Non-glitzy' can be appealing..
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Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Cassandrich • •@Cassandrich Yes, and this is certainly better than other alternatives, but these volunteers really don't have the resources to thoroughlly vet every single package that goes into their repositories.
Nothing is bulletproof. It's just probably the safest option we currently have.
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maco
in reply to Cassandrich • • •James Widman
in reply to maco • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to James Widman • • •@James Widman @maco @Cassandrich and they don't care if what is uploaded to the repository is user-hostile, as long as they aren't financially responsible for it
even *moar* innovation! /s
Kermode
in reply to Cassandrich • • •astroPug
in reply to Cassandrich • • •Long time ago, a friend introduced me to Ubuntu. I didn’t know you could boot from a USB, I didn’t know many things and my friend’s initial guidance was paramount.
The introduction is best done person to person.
Edit: I know Ubuntu of past and Ubuntu of present are not the same. But it was baby’s first linux and easy to install again as a casual user, without my friend’s help.
Due to the criticisms of Ubuntu, I figured I’d try something not-Ubuntu and tried to install Debian over the summer. Got stuck. Had to abandon it due to time reasons.
My personal circle is too busy these days and I probably would appreciate joining a volunteer party. Or here’s to hoping I can make it work over Christmas.
Kermode
in reply to astroPug • • •No one replied you, so I'll bite 😀
In my case baby's first linux was 1994.
You will get an 'ubuntu-like-experience' of old by installing linux mint LMDE - it's what I install on friends computers. The debian version linuxmint.com/download_lmde.ph… is what I use at home myself.
My friends and I use KDE, but if that's your jam, you need to use the package manager to add that as your desktop environment.
Ventoy is a wonderful way to experiment with live distros ventoy.net/en/
It works from a usb key - you just copy as many .iso images on as you like and it puts them in a boot menu for you. I keep one in my pocket always.
edit: I do not recommend you install plain debian, because it's very 'pure' and you'll have a problem installing drivers for this and that.
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Download LMDE 7 - Linux Mint
linuxmint.com