Jonathan Lamothe

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Programmer and free/libre software enthusiast. This is my primary account on the Fediverse. See my website for an authoritative list of accounts.
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Jonathan Lamothe

Sunday, October 26, 2025, 11:16 PM

Jonathan Lamothe
Sunday, October 26, 2025, 11:16 PM

Just heard someone unironically use the term "real AI".

Real artificial intelligence? What the hell does that even mean?

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Judy Anderson

in reply to Jonathan Lamothe Monday, October 27, 2025, 12:53 AM

What it's always meant. "What we don't have yet." In the 80s when we had expert systems based on knowledge representation, we called them "AI" but talked about "real AI" as "what we don't have yet." So, LLMs aren't "real AI", so we (um, some other people, not actually me) lust after the mythical beast, which may never exist.

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Jonathan Lamothe

in reply to Judy Anderson Monday, October 27, 2025, 1:03 AM

@Judy Anderson Fair, but this guy talking about how Zork "faked AI" instead of having the "real AI" we have now.

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Judy Anderson

in reply to Jonathan Lamothe Monday, October 27, 2025, 1:55 AM

Ah, OK. So this guy thinks we didn't have real AI when zork happened but we do now. I beg to differ 🙂

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Jonathan Lamothe

in reply to Judy Anderson Monday, October 27, 2025, 3:15 AM

@Judy Anderson To me, the very concept seems inescapably like an oxymoron, unless we play strange games with the definitions of the words "artificial" and "real". That said, I really wouldn't know how to define the word "intelligence" in the first place, so it may be a moot point anyway.

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Matthew Skala

in reply to Jonathan Lamothe Monday, October 27, 2025, 9:37 PM

It means not actually an outsourced team of humans in India like that startup that was recently in the news.

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Jonathan Lamothe

in reply to Matthew Skala Monday, October 27, 2025, 9:42 PM

@Matthew Skala I guess, but that wasn't the context in this case.

Jonathan Lamothe

2025-10-27 01:03:51

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@Judy Anderson Fair, but this guy talking about how Zork "faked AI" instead of having the "real AI" we have now.
Edit: context

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