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Yes, you can still buy 4K TV's that are not "Smart" (surveillance). They're called "commercial displays" and as a bonus, they're more durable, too.

Prices start at $550 US for a 55-inch Samsung model.

#SurveillanceCapitalism #SmartTV #TV

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in reply to Michael Downey 🧒

...the first two Samsung results on the page you linked are smart though (and I thought all of the Samsung ones actually were)

also, I've seen a *lot* of NEC 42" dumb digital signage displays dropping like flies lately...

in reply to bhtooefr

@bhtooefr just don't plug them into your network. They work just fine as a normal TV (no hearsay, I have a Samsung QN95B). During setup you just skip over the network connection, it'll complain a bit about not being able to calibrate the sound, and that's it.
@downey
in reply to fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›

@fedops @bhtooefr Some β€œsmart” TVs look for unsecured Wifi to phone home and report your viewing against known content hashes if you don’t give them access.

A better solution is to connect them to your network, but then use their MAC address to assign a fixed IP via DHCP, and block that IP from communicating out of your network via parental controls, or similar.

in reply to Matt Godden

@metaning interesting. I'd say that may well be illegal. But anyway it's been a good long while since I last saw a completely open network anywhere around here.
@bhtooefr @downey
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me well I was assuming it would be connecting to a neighbor's network. Surely no fedizen would be running a completely open wifi network in 2024?
in reply to fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›

@fedops πŸ’™πŸ’› Ohhhhhh. I misunderstood what you thought was illegal. I thought you were referring to using MAC filtering to prevent the TV from connecting.

Yeah... that does seem illegal.

in reply to Michael Downey 🧒

I should add that I don't know any specific details about that model. There are many and one should read up on what's included (or not) before buying from any vendor/manufacturer, of course.

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