So many of the absolute worst accounts I suspend should *never* have gotten past signup ๐ฎโ๐จ
If your username contains a slur, hate-speech, or a well-known troll or dogwhistle reference, then it is a failure of your moderators and administration if that account ever sees the light of day.
If someone walks into your instance doing a Nazi salute and you don't slam the door in their face *hard* then you've let your community down.
I'm looking at you big open-registration instances.
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๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ถ "not yet begun to fight"
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ถ "not yet begun to fight"
in reply to ๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ถ "not yet begun to fight" • • •__h4
in reply to ๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ถ "not yet begun to fight" • • •Anyways please distinguish between trolling and Nazis. Good trolling can be quite entertaining whereas reading Nazi stuff is the equivalent of analyzing dogshit on the street ;)
wannabe eldritch entity
in reply to __h4 • • •silly butch
in reply to __h4 • • •@__h4 @Lana
Talking about โtrollingโ, as if jokes and humor werenโt a mode of communication and propaganda frequently used by nazis to make their ideas acceptableโฆ
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to silly butch • • •@melunaka @__h4 @Lana exactly this...
Its what that abhorent streamer shit kid does (wont name him)
Say the most abhorent shit, and then go "i'm kidding"
Like its some get out of consequences free card.
Irrlicht
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Well said.
I like the phrase "both radicalising and being radicalised by their audience"
@melunaka @Lana @alice
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Irrlicht • • •@irrlicht @Lana @melunaka thats a very good saying.
My partner always says "im joking" is not true...
Its a litmus test.
Shout something extreme like
"Star trek Generations is the best star trek movie ever made, the second best is star trek nemesis"
Look at people's reaction, and then "no, im joking"
Means you did the thing little kids do, see how far you can go until your parents tell you to stop.
And the more you do that the furter you can go...
Jernej Simoncฬiฤ ๏ฟฝ
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Nuclear Oatmeal
in reply to Jernej Simoncฬiฤ ๏ฟฝ • • •I called out someone with that, and all of a sudden got kicked out of that NextDoor site.
D. B. Stuck
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee @melunaka @__h4 @Lana
It's a tried and true bullying response to say, "I'm just kidding. Can't you take a joke?"
Because it's never their problem in their mind. It's someone else's failure in some capacity. They lack empathy.
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to D. B. Stuck • • •@MyWoolyMastadon @melunaka @__h4 @Lana my partner (shes ny fiancรฉ but it feels still odd to call her that) is a therapist/councilor.
And she agrees with the assesment.
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@MyWoolyMastadon @melunaka @__h4 @Lana she says (i asked her before going to work)
(Slightly paraphrased)
"Its a blame shift, and very narcissistic, it keeps their selfimage as being a "good person" they lay the blame on their targets, they weren't being mean... their victims just can't take a joke.
rainynight65
in reply to D. B. Stuck • • •Badass Britt
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •RootWyrm ๐บ๐ฆ
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Misuse Case
in reply to RootWyrm ๐บ๐ฆ • • •NexaLilly ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Can you tell me any more info about social.vivaldi.net moderation issues? (it's fine if not - please ignore us if it is better for you)
I keep hearing rumours that are just allegations of bad moderation without any detail.
And I have seen vivaldi actually ban a user I reported before for dog whistles.
LiquidParasyte
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •It's even worse if their instance software already has the tools to catch this stuff
RE: pizza.enby.city/users/domo/staโฆ
Domo ๐ฆ
2025-10-06 18:42:44
Olivia Vespera
in reply to LiquidParasyte • • •NexaLilly ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
Unknown parent • • •Did vivaldi not then ban those users themselves when reports were forwarded?
I could understand a few users getting through cracks - vivaldi social accounts are part of the account system for their older email/forum too - but not banning those users, or users intentionally signing up just to be hateful would be concerning.
Not sure where I'd move this account to.
shironeko
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •NexaLilly ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
Unknown parent • • •Thank you for sharing a few more details with me.
It is sad damage cannot be avoided or prevented entirely.
the unbeliever
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Vivaldi's CEO Jon S. von Tetzchner ( social.vivaldi.net/@jon) often posts on Mastodon promoting Vivaldi.
Maybe message him with some examples and get him to moderate his instance.
Court Cantrell prefers not to
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •I really need to get off this instance. But it seems so prohibitively complicated? *wails in fediverse-illiterate*
Addendum:
Thanks to all who replied to this with offers of help. I'll delve into the options as soon as I have a couple of hours to READ ALL THE THINGS and click the necessary buttons. For now, life = overwhelm for me, so moving instances has to be low on the priority list. But I very much appreciate all of you for taking the time to reach out! โบ๏ธโ๏ธ๐ค๐
anna, a criticality incident at the gender accelerator
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Furbland's Very Jolly Mastodon
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Damon
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Oblomov
Unknown parent • • •@shironeko
I was going to comment about that, but from pizza.enby.city/users/domo/staโฆ it would seem you can put the flagged user name choices under moderation so a human can check if it's an actual fash/troll or just an unfortunate Scunthorpe.
Domo ๐ฆ
2025-10-06 18:42:44
Sashin
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Tristan
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Mudlark
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •DFYX
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •See, that's the point where I'm super happy about sitting on my tiny (effectively single-user) instance.
I only ever see posts from people I follow or stuff those people interact with (boosts, replies) which means that 99% of the weirdos don't even reach my feed.
Sashin
Unknown parent • • •that's good to know!
Maybe I should look into temporarily creating an instance just to be familiar with what it's like from that end.
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •i play persona 5 phantom x,
It happens there as well sadly, with no way of reporting the user names...
Furbland's Very Jolly Mastodon
Unknown parent • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •i was on mastodon.social before.
Followers of some asshat tried to Doxx me, he celebrated them doing so, marveled in it even.
Want me to send revealing pics to "proof" myself.
I reported it, nothing happend to him, but my account got hidden, and mods told me i had to stop harrasing the guy (which i wasnt) because he "was one of the good ones"
And when i migrated he celebrated "chasing me off" and called for his followers to "keep up the good work" they did with me...
Bishop Greer Godsey
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •NexaLilly ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
in reply to Bishop Greer Godsey • • •@bishop @Vivaldi They really don't insist on letting them in.
I've seen them ban users for bigotry before.
Olivia Vespera
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Mark Wyner Wonโt Comply :vm: (@markwyner@mas.to)
mas.toOlivia Vespera
Unknown parent • • •kazรฉ
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •mas.to/@markwyner/115489852379โฆ
Mark Wyner Wonโt Comply :vm: (@markwyner@mas.to)
mas.toAmber
in reply to kazรฉ • • •Adam Jacobs ๐บ๐ฆ
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
Unknown parent • • •@sashin
I don't think the pattern-matching block helps. If you can't sign up with the name you want, you'll just permute it until you can. And moderated registration probably puts off more people who are casually interested in the Fediverse than people who are willing to devote effort to harassment.
Ideally, you want a kind of soft block, where people who trigger that kind of pattern match get an account and can post, but they don't show up in live feeds, their replies to other posts are hidden / flagged / referred to moderators / something, and they can't DM people. They can shout into the void for a bit and then be banned. Or just left to scream into the void in a mode where you're effectively blocked by everyone.
Laura
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •ahills
in reply to Laura • • •Androcat
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Sensitive content
Hm.
When I was arguing with some awful corporate dems at some point, I learned that mas dot to has a silence on me ๐
I also learned that among those people mas dot to has a reputation for "good moderation".
Tinman
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Antonia Epona ๐๐๐
in reply to Tinman • • •@Tinman
Think along the lines of "biological wamn" or "FiLia" or using the womens suffrage colours ...
@๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ)
Gabbo the wafrn guy
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •jb, wf.jbc.lol edition
in reply to Gabbo the wafrn guy • • •J M Berntson
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@Stinkie @assimilateborg @courtcan
If you follow the steps in the transfer guide at fedi.tips/transferring-your-maโฆ all your followers and follows will automatically move over to your new account.
Your old posts would stay on the old server, they wouldn't disappear, but they would redirect people to your new account. Anyone seeing your old posts would know you had moved and know where to find you.
Transferring your Mastodon account to another server | Fedi.Tips โ An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
fedi.tipsAssimilateborg
Unknown parent • • •Stinkie McPhee
in reply to Assimilateborg • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@courtcan
I don't think the joinmastodon guide for transfers is clear enough or comprehensive enough, it leaves out some important steps.
I've done my own transfer guide at fedi.tips/transferring-your-maโฆ which has a lot of steps, but each step is hopefully easy to do ๐ It also means you can transfer everything possible in one set of steps.
Transferring your Mastodon account to another server | Fedi.Tips โ An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
fedi.tipsNoortje Van Leeuwen
Unknown parent • • •@NuclearOatmeal @jernej__s @irrlicht @Lana @melunaka
all i see on nextdoor here is missing pets and people looking for house aides
Nuclear Oatmeal
Unknown parent • • •@jernej__s @Noortjevee @irrlicht @Lana @melunaka
Yep. I think that's what made me do the callout. That or a "demonrat" reference.
I just got casually hooked on it watching people bemoan their lost pets that they left outside when there are wild animals in my part of California that can find a pet to be a tasty snack. Sort of like that funny (that aren't really that funny) videos show.
EQ
Unknown parent • • •This sounds like a growth-problem if you tell people to just sign up, any server is fine. And when the people has been on fedi for a while they realize their whole instance is blocked by everyone else. How am I as a going-to-be user supposed to know everyone hates the server I randomly chose and blocks it?
Matilda Love
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Matthew
in reply to Matilda Love • • •Depends how huge the userbase is on that instance is. Instance like Mastodon.social is so big that if you try to defederate it, you will lose lot of followers as well as account you follow.
At least for me, I have accounts I follow that are from that instance and the instance I'm on just "limit" it as it just too big to really do anything about it. Otherwise, I can imagine it just defederating it if it wasn't as big
@alice@lgbtqia.space
Jimmy
Unknown parent • • •Crystale
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • •like this
๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ), Octavia Con Amore Succubard's Library and Billy Smith like this.
ahills
Unknown parent • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
Unknown parent • • •thanks...
Sadly im used to it...
I blocked him, but suspect some of his "cult" (of personality) might still be following me here...
Not that i have delusions of grandure or something.
Im just a "stupid girl" ( by the band garbage) from Leiden.
very normal person
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Charles โญ is a Green
in reply to very normal person • • •@mook
Sadly, implementing a filter is impossible*: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/iโฆ
* was not thought up by somebody on the core dev team
Regex filter to trigger human review of new accounts
celesteh (GitHub)very normal person
in reply to Charles โญ is a Green • • •very normal person
in reply to very normal person • • •Charles โญ is a Green
in reply to very normal person • • •@mook
Well, I asked them to do it and they said no, so they're _not_ implementing this very basic feature.
Unless they changed their mind someplace else?
Billy Smith
Unknown parent • • •@alexadeswift @culper
This type of "coded language" has always been an aspect of the middle-class racism in the UK.
Davey
Unknown parent • • •@NexaLilly @bishop @Vivaldi
I do often find myself thinking about the Vivaldi server "jesus christ folks, your name is on this server, you need to keep it tighter than that"
If it was me I'd be approved reg only with it.
Antonia Epona ๐๐๐
in reply to Billy Smith • • •@Billy Smith
Indeed it has. It is often there in very carefully coded, "respectable", language.
@Tinman @๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ)
Ben Pettis
Unknown parent • • •@__h4 @Lana
@objectionodon
Objectionodon
in reply to Ben Pettis • • •OBJECTION!
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@Lana @__h4 @alice
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Li ~ Crystal System
Unknown parent • • •Sensitive content