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posted about my Apple ID woes, please share widely?

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20 Years of Digital Life, Gone in an Instant, thanks to Apple

Here’s how Apple “Permanently” locked my Apple ID. I am writing this as a desperate measure. After nearly 30 years as a loyal customer, authoring technical books on Apple’s own programming languages (Objective-C and Swift), and spending tens upon ten…
Dr Paris Buttfield-Addison (hey.paris)
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Dr Paris (he/him)
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it's on the orange site if you can spare an upvote too

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…

Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help | Hacker News

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Charlie McHenry
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They did this to me as well a few years back…then essentially denied me access to about $1,000 worth of music I had downloaded for my (back then) iPad. Not amount of conversation, emails, or social media posts remedied the situation. They won, I lost. Good luck. HN just might do it.
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Scott Williams 🐧
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I also had a pre-email account. Someone got my password and changed it and Apple support said they couldn't recover it since their support tools required username to be email so they just apologized and I was out of luck. I lost my iTunes library. I'm not an apple user in general anymore, but that helped solidify that I wouldn't be returning.
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gentlegardener
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I’ll see what if anything #aapl shareowners can do. I am terrified of this too as a personal and small business user (try to keep your spending on each separated to satisfy tax authorities, and not have all eggs in one fragile basket). So many things #aapl seemed to get right and see from the u/x. If this is how they use #ai,or just write code poorly for fraud alerts, it is not good.
#AI #aapl
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WesDym
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@gentlegardener Local storage is relatively inexpensive. No one should have be 'terrified' of this.
@gentlegardener

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@WesDym @gentlegardener You didn't read the linked post, did you?
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WesDym
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@me OP had 20 years to set up local storage for up to 6TB. 8TB currently goes for under $300. They could have, but didn't, instead naïvely putting their trust in a giant faceless corporation who doesn't care about them or anyone. OP is an 'expert' who apparently didn't back up important and irreplaceable data in a form they controlled directly, even though they easily could have.

I read it. What point do you believe you're making?

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WesDym
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@me Okay, what do you think it's also about?
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PerryM ✅
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@wesdym @me Pardon me guys for butting in but I wondered 1) if the data was crucial why O did not back it up and 2) why did he so obviously, as a guest, take a dump on Apple's carpet! I mean, when you're a guest ...
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WesDym
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@PerryM Apple wronged him, no doubt, but any other huge company would just as readily. It's not even relevant, in my mind, which company was involved.

OP could have easily avoided this whole drama if they'd backed up critical data locally, which they clearly know enough about, could almost certainly afford, and had 20 years to do it.

Sympathy only goes so far. At some point, it's fair to point out mistakes like this, if only so that others might learn from their errors and not repeat them.

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PerryM ✅
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@wesdym Wes, it may be as simple as a small company, without professional or employed IT help for $$$ reasons, having fallen into a solution to run their business and without being aware of their IT danger ... fell victim to it! I can't imagine.
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WesDym
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@PerryM I know you're not this stupid. If you read the piece, you definitely know better, and you should be embarrassed to offer this argument. You should also be grown up enough not to write this badly to anyone who's invited your commentary.

Take 30 days.

@PerryM ✅
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@WesDym
*sigh*
From the article:

The Damage: I effectively have over $30,000 worth of previously-active “bricked" hardware. My iPhone, iPad, Watch, and Macs cannot sync, update, or function properly. I have lost access to thousands of dollars in purchased software and media.
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WesDym
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@me And that's very bad, but all of that stuff is replaceable -- and, at least in theory, the money can be recovered, too. But going 20 years without backing up 6TB of data? No, sorry. No excuse.
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@WesDym I'm not saying he shouldn't have backed up. I'm saying the self-righteous bullshit is exhausting.

I'm tapping out. Have a nice day.

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Negative12DollarBill
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@me @wesdym I genuinely don't understand the "bricked" claim. To me that means the devices won't even turn on or boot up. Surely that's not true?
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@Negative12DollarBill @WesDym I honestly can't say. I avoid Apple products for exactly these minds of reasons. With the way they tightly control the entire hardware/software stack, it's not an entirely implausible claim though.
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Negative12DollarBill
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@me @wesdym Pretty sure Apple can't reach their long arm out far enough to stop me using my phone to call people. That's a contract between me and my phone company after all. I suppose the Contacts app might have problems? But that's not the same as "bricked".
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@Negative12DollarBill @WesDym You can't make phone calls if you can't unlock your phone, can you? Again, I don't know how this actually works in practice. I'm just saying they absolutely could.

My partner had an iPad that had been locked to her ex's account. It was for all intents and purposes completely bricked to us.

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WesDym
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Yeah, but 'bricked' is an issue specific to local hardware, not external control systems such as the telco or mfr. It means it won't start up, for anyone.

Misusing this term this way would be like me saying that someone taking my car key from me is the same as the engine seizing up. In the latter case, NO ONE can start it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_(e…


totally non-functional electronic device

Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)
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WesDym
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@me I certainly don't trust them, and I've long been a critic, though I also use their damn phone for the time being. Would love to get off it.
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gentlegardener
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@me @wesdym yes I did. Loads of ways for less informed users to lose everything

And yes there s risk in everything and anything.

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@gentlegardener Yeah, that was actually directed at someone else, sorry. You just got tagged accidentally because you were part of the thread.
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Glen Mastodon ☠
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it starts with laptops and might continue with medical devices. We need to be loud about stuff like this!
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I am Jack's Found 404
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@viktorTheBoar
There are already some well documented medical device incidents:

spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-o…


Their Bionic Eyes Are Now Obsolete and Unsupported

These early adopters found out what happened when a cutting-edge marvel became an obsolete gadget... inside their bodies.
Eliza Strickland (IEEE Spectrum)
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DG1JAN
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so, for convenience you put your whole digital life in a trap and now you are complaining that you are trapped? Trusting in a single company (regardless of apple, google, microsoft, atlassian, etc) is - frankly speaking- stupid these days. Go and free your digital life with Linux, OSS and Selfhosting. This is not convenient at all, but it's much better than being a digital slave from big-tech
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eli (ˈe̝ːli), vampire kitsune
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glad you have the luxury and privilege to spend exorbitant amounts of time fucking with linux servers but not all of us do.

btw i noticed you arent the admin of your instance. also your site and code is hosted on github (microsoft).

@parisba

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DG1JAN
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@rowan btw. If you have a second look, I also host my public project at #codeberg and I'm running a private Forgejo instance for my own stuff.

I don't consider mastodon as important, so no need for self hosting. Prefer to support the radiosocial admin directly.

#codeberg @eli (ˈe̝ːli), vampire kitsune

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