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A determination that what approaches in the US is, in fact, an anti-trans genocide
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It occurs to me that I don't hear very many of you talking about this. The link is to a Red Flag Alert (their 3rd) about an impending genocide against trans people occurring in the United States of America.
The Lemkin Instititute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security is the organisation which has made the determination. That page explains the particular outlines of this attempt at genocide. And confirms that this attempt is happening.
This is why activists like me are running around with our hair on fire. In fact, it was seeing this coming if Trump won again that got me started working on asylum for trans people in January of 2023.
Yes. 2023. Almost two years before the election that brought Trump back, I started a petition to the Canadian government to help head this off.
M. Trudeau did not have any interest in doing anything about this, in his inspiring program of "sucking up to Trump in every snivelling way he could grind his nose into the orange gasbag's exhaust hole."
Mark Carney makes a big show of his Elbows Up theatrical bit, but he's just as authoritarian as Trump, he's just got actual social skills and knowledge and stuff, so he's doing it quietly and competently.
But he's still doing it.
This is why I want y'all, you Canadian trans folk, or indeed anyone trans or who loves trans people and lives in Canada, to contact your Member of Parliament. And just ask them to please advocate for this Safe Third Country Agreement to be suspended with regard to trans people from the US and UK.
I don't use the word genocide lightly. Ever. Even if I weren't truly convinced by the experts whose opinions I've read, all of which agree that that's what this is.
The Shoah gave us the idea of the Righteous Among Nations, people who risked, and often lost, their lives protecting Jews from the Nazis.
That's your role, cis folk. Righteousness. For us.
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I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
I hear a lot of people expressing their dislike for all things "AI" and in general, I agree with them, but...
The problem I have is that "AI" is an ill-defined term. It's used as a hand-wavey buzzword to mean a whole bunch of different things. Mostly these days, it's pretty synonymous with LLMs and similar technologies, but it's actually a broader term than that. It's much like how the cryptocurrency industry appropriated the word "crypto", but I digress...
I've been dabbling with digital art lately. The idea of using "AI" to generate my art is extremely distasteful to me. That said, I do digital art because it affords me tools that I wouldn't have available to me otherwise. For instance, I, as a human, could not replicate the various filters I've applied, or the liquefy tool. That said, those tools don't need to destroy the planet and plunder the commons to be created. That's an important distinction to me.
The thing is, those tools could be argued to be a form of "AI" given the squishiness of the term to begin with. Also, I don't feel right about calling my art something like "100% human created", because a computer has (under my explicit direction) enhanced the work I've done.
There's a lot of nuance here that's difficult to express in a single post. At what point does the use of a tool overshadow the human involvement in an endeavour? To be honest, I don't exactly know.
I guess my issue, as is frequently the case, is that I get hung up on the precise meaning of words, and I lack a precise definition.
If people don't specify exactly what sort of AI they mean, I just take it as read that they're specifically talking about LLM (text, computer code) and Stable Diffusion (art).
Same thing with "crypto". If they don't specify exactly what they mean, I just take it as read that it's block-chain garbage.
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While watching When the Wind Blows, bombs go off.
Old couple: We both have headaches! Well a spot of tea will clear that right up.
Me: You fools! That's a symptom of radiation poisoning!
While living my life, cities burn and fill the air with smoke and unknown chemicals.
Me: That's odd. I don't usually get headaches across multiple days. I just need to drink more water...
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Everyone is into denial if the problem is big enough.
Sometimes when things are bad denial is your best friend.
remember seeing that when it came out - that film destroyed me!
@junklight I had more to say about it here:
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I'm watching an 80s apocalyptic animated British film on YouTube.It aged well.
The characters are the whitest people on the planet. Just a little older than my parents, children of WWII, surviving WWIII.
Some are too young to remember when folks like that were the normal adult personality. It's the "this is fine" meme as a movie. The Don't Look Up of the Cold War era.
Bleak as it is mundane. Very artistic animation choices, very anti-war messaging, very left of center POV.
When The Wind Blows (1988)
[oh! And opening track is David Bowie. It starts live action.]
#MovieReview #review #Letterboxd
@junklight The ending is quite poignant and also depressing
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I've been unable to push code for the past few hours. I just checked with someone else and they're having no such issues. I was pushing successfully earlier today.
I think I've encountered this before. Do you have some sort of super aggressive rate limiting that might account for this in effect or something?
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The minimum wage should be tied in percentage to the maximum rent allowed for a one-bedroom apartment.
Someone working full-time should be able to cover all their minimal living expenses with their wage. It's a catastrophic society failure that this isn't the case anymore in many places around the world.
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"Minimum wage is not supposed to be a living wage" is literally their answer if you ask them about it, which is every interpretation of the word wrong, obviously.
@plutarch in the UK the Tories pulled this amazing stunt several years ago where they did a one-off slight raise to the minimum wage and renamed it "the national living wage"
It's not actually a living wage of course. But it shut down all the actual discussion which was exactly what they really wanted
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@plutarch What they're really saying in that quote of yours is, "what is this 'labor movement' you're speaking of?"
@plutarch I think the number should be called “Minimum living wage”.
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Billionaires spent a lot of money on AI, and on buying corrupt Supreme Court Justices, to make housing unaffordable.
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Harlan Crow Bought Property from Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal.
The transaction is the first known instance of money flowing from Crow to the Supreme Court justice. The sale netted the GOP megadonor two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ mother was living.Justin Elliott (ProPublica)
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I would argue that this doesn't go far enough.
The maximum rent for a one bedroom flat should be tied to the minimum benefits that an individual who is not working through choice, not incapability, can expect to receive, such that this individual can afford enough basic food and fuel (electricity, gas, etc) to have a meaningfully balanced and varied diet, and be able to survive. Survival in a civilised society should not be a struggle.
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I think if we simply lock the relationship between minimum wage and housing, we only shift which set of oligarchs rip us off most away from the employers towards the landlords.
I think we need legally protected housing communes.
This is a bandaid solution, workers need to own whatever they produce.
We do not need masters like Bezos and neither do we need negotiations in wage slavery, its will still be modern age slavery. The state and Epstein class will still have too much power and neither produce anything.
💯 I was just in Montana and people are working 3 jobs to pay rent...IN MONTANA!
Imagine what it's like in the rest of the U.S.
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Another good idea: Minimum wage tied to executive wage. Every raise they get directly increases the wage of their employees.
@kevinashworth Can we tie in stock buybacks and dividends as well?
@kevinashworth I think Ben and Jerry’s used to do something like this (before they were bought). Decades ago a Rep from MN proposed to tie minimum wage to something national but I can’t remember what. As you can tell, it didn’t fly.
and minimum wage being literally that, illegal to pay anyone under that, no matter if they work 40 hours or just 20.
When I was young the minimum wage was a living wage. That's how it was implemented. On my meager wage of $1.25hr 40hrs got me an apartment, food, transpo (The basic living needs) and a beer after work. Even some medical cost.
I also got much of my first 2 years of college at the same time. No debt. Jr college cost $5.00 for a student ID and books. Then we got Nixon and it all went away by the time we got Reagan, gone. Coincidence?
@A_Minion I don't know. I don't think minimum wage should require a 40 hour work week to barely survive with only just enough to get drunk to try to forget that your entire life consists of doing work. Especially since companies sign people up for 39.9 hours a week to avoid providing benefits.
Ok, really I feel like humanity *requires* UBI as a thing, but, putting that aside, we need to have enough non-working time to live in addition to having enough money to live.
definitely not the case in todays wage war.
I managed to get social housing in Poland. I earn the minimum wage, and the rent is 20% of my salary.
I know both Paris and Tokyo both try to varying degrees to make this work.
And while I am generally opposed to the argument that “regulations make housing prices go up,” they do sometimes. In a lot of cities, high density housing (including SRO) is essentially illegal in a lot of cities.
and this needs to be the case for single people. We pay the same for space and similar in bills as a couple but on a single income
@dropbear Yes, the default should be to assume that, economically, adults are single. Otherwise, people might stay in horrible domestic situations due to financial pressure (as it happens now way too often, leading to devastating outcomes). Everyone should be able to afford a one-bedroom apartment alone. It's a matter of safety for many.
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@dropbear It's precisely because all the one bedroom flats were too expensive that I ended up in such a relationship.
@MiaMarkTwo @dropbear It's a horrible situation to be in, I'm very sorry you experienced that 😔
The old rule of thumb was rent equals 25% of wages. Now I read that people are paying over 50%.
@stevewfolds I heard the rule was 30%. I am above 50%. I refuse to unlearn the rule I cannot follow, cause the market would prefer 200%.
@stevewfolds I’m at around 24%, but median rent in my neighborhood is almost exactly 50% more than what I pay. So basically, this place is not great, but I can’t move at least unless they raise my rent by a lot.
People used to pay less for other things too (like healthcare), so if they’re up to 50% in rent they must be in an awful spot overall.
The national minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries.
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around Portugal in certain cities (e.g. Lisbon) rent is above the mean wage, and someone making minimum wage likely cannot even afford a bedroom in a shared apartment there.
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It's my understanding that this fact is behind the recent rise in anti-tourism sentiment? Because short-term rentals for tourists (and to a lesser extent expats / "digital nomads") are pricing the locals out of the housing market?
AirBnB etc are evil and destructive.
@cazabon Yes, but apart from housing there's plenty of other reasons like the remaking of cities for tourists, where gift shops, high price restaurants, fake traditional places, took away plenty of the actual traditional cafes, small shops, etc from city centers.
Also focusing the country's investment in tourism helped maim a big part of our industries that resulted in plenty of people no longer having the opportunity to work the jobs they are skilled in.
There's also laws that fiscally benefit nomads more than locals with the excuse of attracting talent when our own talent has been mostly leaving for decades, and something similar for foreign retirees.
All of this contributes to a dislike of tourism by many, especially those that do not benefit anything from it.
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In Germany the minimum wage is defined by an independent commission consisting of employers and employees. AFAIK its height depends on the cost of living, which includes the rent.
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Homepage of the Minimum Wage Commission's websiteGeschäfts- und Informationsstelle für den Mindestlohn c/o Bundesanstalt für Arbeitsschutz und Arbeitsmedizin
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I'd like to see it tied to some external benchmark. I rather like the MIT Living Wage Calculator. Where I live (MO, USA) for one person, no kids, it's running about $19/hr when our minimum wage is $15/hr. But I'm sure there would be a million arguments over which benchmark and how it's calculated.
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You would think that all of these people pushing for social media bans for kids would be interested in whether or not these bans actually work...but no, I guarantee we will keep on seeing age-gating bills. theconversation.com/more-than-…
More than 80% of kids still using social media despite ban, new eSafety report finds
The report provides more evidence Australia’s world-leading social media ban isn’t going to plan.The Conversation
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Would not be surprised if the effect is opposite of what is intended, because criminal and/or abusive behavior can't be talked about without implicating yourself. Perfect legislation from a child molesters perspective, if you ask me.
it's about tracking adults, not kid safety!
It's almost like these people want kids to be forced to take their use underground so they have no protections without risk of losing their accounts and social connections if/when bad things happen to them online...
Social media bans do work...
... at removing privacy.
The Moneyed funding Trump's fascism want their privacy protected, but not ours.
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Prior to WWW. I had a bbs that the kids could hack, the youngest (that I knew of) was 10yo. What did they think was going to happen because they were told no.
these kids growing up in the information overload age are far smarter than we give them credit for
One thing I've never understood about these age bans. If these sites are so dangerous that we need to be older, why don't we just make those sites accountable to do better
From what I've seen, most people don't get smarter as they age - they seem to become more stupid. Just ban any site that we think age restrictions will fix.
I’m in sock, aghast, discombobulated that the guardrails which experts said would not work, did in fact not work. Who could have foreseen this, other than every expert on the topic.
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As @pluralistic says, they eventually have (and try) to ban general-purpose computing.
The bans exist only so they can track us more.
these bills are evil and I'm glad it isn't working. It's time to.fight back
the ban not working is to push the id surveillance
it seems to me that we just want to shift responsibility for poor online behaviour onto “someone else”. So the adults don’t have to change how they behave online or run social platforms or support young people in developing skills.
All of these bills and laws are just action for the sake of it. Politicians don't have any real ideas.
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when parents started making a fuss about kids getting run over at school drop-offs and pickups, the government here didn’t ban kids from going to school, they instituted school zone speed limits during drop-off and pickup times. But no, it’s impossible to regulate the social media companies and make them actually keep kids safe.
Government was perfectly happy with children using social media, until something made them unhappy with children using social media.
That thing was mass protests and school strikes, organised by children, against climate inaction by governments.
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@mayintoronto It’s important though to look at the source of this report — it’s the gatekeepers themselves. They’re not reporting on wildly complex workarounds, they’re reporting that platforms haven’t in their view done enough yet. This isn’t an admission of project failure, it’s a heads up that they’re ready to justify things that will make it even worse for everyone. The issue is really that the Australian legislation got ahead of age verification vendors, who are now clearly gearing up to market.
Yes we will, because child safety was never the point.
This reminds me of the time when the state government of Bavaria tried to ban the use of mobiles in public schools.
It was a complete failure.
@evacide I would think that if I believed a word they said.
I think you should consider that this is a feature, not a bug.
A failing regulation justifies increasing the level of regulation. If your goal is online surveillance rather than 'think of the children' then this is an excellent outcome.
A failing regulation justifies increasing the level of regulation. If your goal is online surveillance rather than 'think of the children' then this is an excellent outcome.
Of course—what did you expect? It's all about total control.
just like banning abortion 🙁
they were never meant to change anything. It was only symbolic. Anyone knew it.
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So I'm working on an #OrgMode document that's probably about 2/3 #emacs #lisp code. I'm planning on releasing it shortly, but I'm not sure what to do about the licensing. Normally I use the #AGPL for my code, but since this isn't strictly code, I'm wondering if some version of the #CreativeCommons license might be a better fit. Do they have a #copyleft variant?
The Creative Commons licence most in line would be CC BY-SA. It's permissive whilst requiring attribution and derivative works to use the same license.
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@bignose I can't really think of any problems with it. It just seemed an odd choice and I wondered if there was a more fitting one.
CC-BY-SA is Creative Commons' answer to copyleft. CC-BY-SA-4.0 is one-way compatible into GPLv3. (The 4.0 is important!)
There's no CC license that forces code all the way to AGPLv3, but you can say "code blocks AGPLv3, the rest CC-BY-SA-4.0." You have to choose whether a single license or the Affero clause matters more.
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So, I decided to just go full AGPL. Perhaps a weird choice, but it gets the job done.
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Please note: this is a work in progress.
So I originally had the full license embedded into the org-mode file, but decided to split it out into a separate LICENSE.txt because reasons. Now I'm finding myself wondering if I should add a README, if only because Codeberg expects to find one. The only reason I haven't is because the org-mode file kind of is its own README.
@Anna Liberty That's an option I hadn't considered.
i know im late to the party but did you consider the gfdl gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html i dont think it comes to people’s mind as readily as CC but i think an honest try to address this issue was made
@Marcus The problem is that it's a combination of code and documentation in a single file. I eventually just settled on AGPLing the whole shebang. It's perhaps a little weird, but gets the job done.
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Dude's pretty stoic for a guy who just watched his father die. #monsterdon
This guy's got pretty good aim for someone with no depth perception. #monsterdon
Why would an institution like this even have an explicit policy on paying ransoms? Is this a common occurrence for them? #monsterdon
...and not a drop of blood on his sword. I knew it was special, but it's apparently also self-cleaning. #monsterdon
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Stumpy's really having a bad day, isn't he? #monsterdon
"Am I, an honest citizen, to be treated this way?"
Sir, you have literally just demonstrated that you are not honest.
Wait, he could have just done that at any time? #monsterdon
Wait, what happened to the "no ransom" policy? I guess it's okay if it's someone else footing the bill. I mean, it's a religious organization, so I guess it checks out. 🙃 #monsterdon
"Play square with me and I'll play square with you."
I think the slaves you're selling might disagree.
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Did she have a silly string cannon in her staff? Where can I get one of those? #monsterdon
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Terf’s are really, really afraid we might see and read this major report. It documents UK based anti-trans critical organizations and their funding.
They were able to force the worlds biggest human rights organizations to pull their report down within hours from it’s release, that’s how much they don’t want the world to know.
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Report A Growing Threat The Anti Rights Movement In The UK July 2026 : Amnesty International : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Amnesty International put out a major report documenting the influence of UK based anti trans gender critical organizations and their funding. Within hours,...Internet Archive
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Also, important: If we should shun Amnesty now because they caved to powerful blackmailing and got their report down, I think the blackmailers have won, with their divide and conquer -tactics.
Instead we should increase our support of organizations that do this work, so that they could firmly sustain blackmailing.
Let’s not give in to their nasty tricks!
I have been an amnesty international donor in the past and I will be again when they retract their apology and republish all their findings regarding the anti-rights movement in the UK in full unabridged form, until then I am more than happy to take my money elsewhere, to organizations that actually do stand up for trans rights, and I've sent them an email stating as much.
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now we just get to update it by scribbling Amnesty I. itself into the margins for kissing their boots 
maybe we should go add information and the reference to relevant wikipedia articles
I dont get it, why did they cave ?
Just share it anyway ?
What they gonna do, scream loudly about how they dont like it ???
Just share it anyway ?
What they gonna do, scream loudly about how they dont like it ???
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Report is 16 pages long with appendix of list of all organisations studied.
Average chapter length is two pages with roughly 4 chapters between Key Findings and Conclusion.
As a fan of Bittorrent, I'm gonna join on seeding their Torrent, although it seems not many people use that to get it right now.
But hey, better one source more. 😊
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But of course if you use floating point representation for the parameters then the result is a floating point number as expected:
Elisp, with floating point parameters, also works as expected:
In C, with IEEE 754 double values, then 1.0/2.0 = 0.50, exactly, no rounding or epsilon comparison needed.
Just spent a day and a half hunting down a bug that was making me question my sanity. As it turns out, #emacs #lisp's
/ function silently drops the decimal in its result if both of its inputs are integers... so (/ 1 2) evaluates to 0, not 0.5. Granted, this is also the way that C does it, but in my defense, #CommonLisp does not do this.like this
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Ah yes, the joy of integer division.
Adding a float into the mix is an improvement, but still no match for the numeric tower of CL. I would expect that there is prior art, but few languages that has come after, has the full sophistication of CL math. And this is one of the advantages of dynamic typing.
Elisp is quite odd at times. This feels like a little bit of a footgun tbh.
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@FoxFunction True, though it is the way things work in C as well (which is what elisp is under the hood if you dig deep enough).
I would say a big difference is that C would implicitly cast the result to a float in this case.
@FoxFunction Unless things have changed since the last time I've used C, it does not.
@FoxFunction No worries. As I've already demonstrated, it's an easy mistake to make. 😀
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@Vassil Nikolov | Васил Николов Ah, I've never used Pascal. It's just that since elisp is a dialect of Lisp, I expected behaviour that was more in line with Common Lisp than C is all.
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As a first approximation, I suggest thinking of Emacs Lisp as closer to MacLisp than to Common Lisp.
A precise description of "closer" would be fairly long.
For example, Emacs Lisp acquired things like bignums and lexical bindings fairly late.
Again as an approximation, the descendancies are:
MacLisp → Emacs Lisp
MacLisp and others → Common Lisp
(Those others include, in alphabetical order, Interlisp, Scheme, Zeta Lisp, etc., but not Emacs Lisp.)
And then an important aspect of these approximations is the `cl' package, also a late addition that evolved quite a bit.
Transferring knowledge about C to Emacs Lisp is rather tricky, even though the implementation of a part of Emacs (including the Emacs Lisp virtual machine) is written in C.
#CommonLisp
#Elisp
#Emacs
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yup of course, but that's integer math, not floating point math
GNU Clisp and SBCL don't show decimals for integer division, but return fractions instead!
* (/ 1 2)
1/2But of course if you use floating point representation for the parameters then the result is a floating point number as expected:
[1]> (/ 1.0 2.0)
0.5Elisp, with floating point parameters, also works as expected:
(/ 1.0 2.0)
0.5In C, with IEEE 754 double values, then 1.0/2.0 = 0.50, exactly, no rounding or epsilon comparison needed.
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...which would only work if every instruction in
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Spent several hours today trying to figure out why my #elisp code was misbehaving. Turns out, I made a mistake while trying to be clever. Instead of doing:
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stuff
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stuff returned a non-nil value.I should stop trying to be clever.
Edit: when, not while
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I was wondering why not use "if" rather than "when" here. Well, if is a bit different in that it only allows a single expression as the THEN part. But I wasn't so wrong. "when" is defined as a macro essentially like this:
(list 'if cond (cons 'progn body))
@Dave Marquardt Yeah, I default to using
when when I don't have an else clause. That way I don't have to bother with a progn. I just wish that I had thought to extend that logic to and.
For the morbidly curious, this is the (now corrected) code:
I should probably throw some comments in here, but essentially the
(defun jrl-collect-data (table input output)
"Collect table data into lists of outputs per input"
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res))I should probably throw some comments in here, but essentially the
assoc in the when block always returns nil on the first iteration of the loop, and if it can't progress past that point, it'll always return nil on subsequent loops and nothing will ever happen. As a result, any list I might feed into this function is always going to result in a nil output.
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Had a bit of a stuffy nose this morning, but couldn't figure out where the salt/baking soda mixture I'd prepared for the neti pot had gotten to. I decided to use the (boiled and cooled) water without it, because... how bad could it really be?
Do. Not. Recommend.
My eyes just stopped watering.
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Alright fedi, can I have a recommendation for an email provider which:
- is not based in a country, or at the very least, no UN-recognised nation
- has a no-log policy only in the summer, as I have a fireplace in my house so I gotta be burning those logs when it gets cold
- supports end-to-end encrypted lucid dreaming
- is completely vegan and ideally fairtrade, but rainforest alliance is also fine
- supports using other people's domains, I like those more than mine
- allows for text formatting in green, and also, ideally, red. I love my friends Green and Red.
- has diplomatic treaties with other mail providers
- is not based in a country, or at the very least, no UN-recognised nation
- has a no-log policy only in the summer, as I have a fireplace in my house so I gotta be burning those logs when it gets cold
- supports end-to-end encrypted lucid dreaming
- is completely vegan and ideally fairtrade, but rainforest alliance is also fine
- supports using other people's domains, I like those more than mine
- allows for text formatting in green, and also, ideally, red. I love my friends Green and Red.
- has diplomatic treaties with other mail providers
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zsh unironically has what you need.
- Implements mail
- Definitely not based in any country as it is a global project.
- Supports seasonal logging with the
zsh/datetimemodule alongside its histfile customisation - Implements end-to-end encrypted lucid dreaming via
sshand inbuiltsftpsupport (just remote into your friend's chip). zshdoes not contain animal productszshdoes allow remote shells on other people's domains, and spoofing mail senders is super easyzshhas full colour support including red and greenzshhas had a diplomatic treaty with sterling dot com to host their mailing lists: zsh.org/mla/announce/msg00012.…
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i think gmail checks all the boxes but idk
hm,,, actually that seems correct
- is not based in a country, or at the very least, no UN-recognised nyation
alphabet inc has $595 billion of assets, making it 31th country by gdp (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)), however it's not un recognized
- has a no-log policy only in the summer, as I have a fireplace in my house so I gotta be burning those logs when it gets cold
gmail doesn't have a no-log policy, even in the summer
- supports end-to-end encrypted lucid dreaming
that's self-hosted gemini for government, i believe?
- is completely vegan and ideally fairtrade, but rainforest alliance is also fine
rainforest alliance has a link to youtube on their homepage, so i would assume they approve of google
- supports using other people's domains, I like those more than mine
as part of paid google workspace service, yes
- allows for text formatting in green, and also, ideally, red. I love my friends Green and Red.
yes, using formatting toolbar
- has diplomatic treaties with other mail providers
almost certainly yes
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going back in time and telling baby!Alice that one day, she'll be able to go online and order a computer 8 times faster than her packard bell, with dual cores, and it'll arrive within 24 hours.
and she'll also be able to do the same for a sandwich, and the sandwich will cost more
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now my brain is stuck on the idea of next-day sandwich delivery
"Your sandwich will arrive sometime tomorrow between 2-5pm and does not require a signature"
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@Plan_A_to_Y As a former Post Office employee, I can tell you people send all sorts of things in the mail.
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What kinda f----ing McDonald's has a message? Whaddu-I say I want a burger tomorrow? What the--?
youtube.com/watch?v=KwXeFDroKy…
mcdonalds answering machine
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well you know how elaborate those dual-core sandwiches are
@diazona Still too simple for me. I prefer triple core sandwiches (ham, pepperoni, salami).
@diazona club sandwich is dual core
@diazona wait or is it dual socket??
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it's actually way, way worse than I implied, and this isn't any kind of joke
You can get SIX computers for the price of a nice sub sandwich delivered to your door
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why is the sandwich named Matt?
@jordan You'll have to ask Ike, of Ike's Sandwiches
@jordan This shop names many of its sandwiches after local sports players. Matt Cain was a star pitcher for the San Francisco Giants, who helped them win the World Series twice and pitched the 22nd ever "perfect game" in major league baseball. Why this sandwich in particular bears his name, I couldn't tell you, though.
I kind of like though that i can buy a 6-pack of tiny computers at all.
when i was 10, i built a handheld computer from 2 wood pieces and painted buttons and a display on it.
kind of gone a long way since then.
this is basically the most cyberpunk thing, huh.
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as i was pointing out the other day, i can order two of these devices that would put a mid-2000s touchscreen PDA to shame and it costs me $25.
i just have to bring my own operating system and unfortunately the ones for this class of device all died
(which is why i'm sitting here making my own)
@linear :o, looks cool, what device is this ??
it is an ESP32 board that has no brand name on it but is resold under the name of numerous vendors, documentation here lcdwiki.com/2.8inch_ESP32-32E_…
i also am developing with the LilyGo T-Deck Plus as a target, which is conveniently available at my local MicroCenter
you can buy them from Elecrow here elecrow.com/2-8-240x320-esp32-…
2.8” 240x320 ESP32 LCD Display | With WiFi and BLE | IoT & Embedded Projects
2.8” 240x320 ESP32 LCD Touch Display | With WiFi and BT/BLE Description This 2.8” display is a high-performance development module that integrates the ESP32-WROOM-32E module, has powerful development capabilities and rich resources.elecrow.openhardware
@linear woah, this would make an incredible device to stick in gur back of a thick notebook, for little digital scribbles, calculator, etc
yes! i am missing things like that because all the stuff that exists and is usable now is either Android or some weird custom thing with vendor lock-in, and way too big of a computer in any case.
that's why i am making software for things like these devices for myself, and in the hope it will be useful for others
i have visions of running a clock app with all the alarm and stopwatch functionality you might want, a simple calendar app (probably with syncing), a simple email app, notes (drawing and text), calculator (maybe even graphing calculator eventually), and a terminal app to access the shell functionality on the RTOS i'm building this atop
and i'm working on loadable apps with an SDK. i plan to create a port of Quake as a demo of the capabilities of it, for heavier devices with the RAM for it (like the T-Deck). DOOM should also be possible on devices without lots of RAM
@linear that sounds super cool and comfy, writing a custom RTOS for gur esp32 is one of gur things ive always wondered about but never found a concrete answer to!
i am actually using Zephyr as the RTOS/kernel, basically as a pre-made microkernel that already makes a lot of the same decisions i would have anyway (plus, i use it at work too).
but it doesn't have all of the things i need. it doesn't have "apps" in the conventional sense, it is designed around an assumption that your firmware contains exactly one "app" that does everything. which works for 99% of commercial products that need to do precisely one thing
so i'm just writing all of my "OS middleware" to handle loading and managing user-facing apps, switching between them, and coordinating their use of resources like the display, etc
@linear oh this looks cool! i didnt realise there was a proper alternative to gur version of FreeRTOS supllied with gur esp-idf
yes, and Zephyr supports a lot of other microcontrollers too. my firmware image builds without source changes for some RISC-V and ARM based microcontrollers as well as the Xtensa-based ESP32s
there's some missing functionality though, like dual-core SMP support (you can do AMP, with each core running a different firmware image), and there is currently no driver for high-speed MIPI-DBI displays using the LCD peripheral. but other than that most things work fine
@linear wait, so does AMP mean gur second core loads off a different parition / regeon of flash???
or does gur first core load code into ram and then start gur second core?
(i've never actually used an AMP system before and basically all of my SMP experience is on x86 or arm)
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your first guess was correct, it is a separate partition in flash, though i am not sure how the second core is started, and that may actually still be kicked off by the first core.
paste.sr.ht/~ky0ko/8e27b0506bd…
this device tree file contains the partition layout i have define for my LilyGo T-Deck, which is set up for A/B partitions for each image type. you'll notice there are two flash partitions each for the main cpu, appcpu, and lpcore.
PROCPU (protocol CPU) is the name for core 0, and its name is omitted. APPCPU is the name for core 1. originally it was intended that core 0 handled wireless comms, core 1 handled GUI stuff, but nobody really does that. i currently don't use the appcpu or the low power core for anything.
@linear Ooh, that's more straight forward then i expected, i might have to try this out next time im doing an esp32 project
hmm, i wonder if i could have gur second core run a baremetal program to implement a virtual machine, and have gur first core run everything else
you would even have the conveniences of Zephyr on the second core if you do this, and assign hardware specifically to one core or the other (ymmv; it depends very heavily on what is attached to the board and how, they can't share peripherals)
it supports first class integration with OpenAMP, which handles providing a communication channel between the cores. i've used this professionally in a medical device, to communicate between cores running an RTOS and controlling FPGA fabric, and cores running Linux on the same Xilinx SoC, it's pretty nifty
The worst part is that doesn't even account for the delivery fee.
I'm guessing there's also delivery fees and a tip for the sandwich, so you might be able to claim 8 computers for that price, perhaps more.
Damn, now I'm hungry for computers.
@Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️ 264KB SRAM? What a bizarre number.
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@me yeah that's an RP2040 thing. It has 6 banks of SRAM, two of which are 4KB each, and the remaining ones are 64KB.
so it's 256KB+8KB
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I don't use Pico / embedded hardware much. What is this comparable to? Early 90s computers and the SNES?
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Write a little TRIPOS style OS.
I wanted to make a little weather monitoring station out of an RPi I already had (rev 1a, as in, the original one) a while ago. iirc I discovered that the sensors I wanted would together cost more than a whole new and significantly more capable SBC.
That's also what a big pizza from Dominos without a discount voucher costs.
So it's not just me seeing these skewed supply chain economics. I'm in Scotland. I'm exploring interesting avenues for reducing my basic food spend.
You should also tell her how one other day, she'll be able to order a computer that costs more than that months' rent...
Who promises that a sandwich ordered online will arrive within 24 hours?
@kasperd doordash, on a good day
My first PC was a Packard Bell. 😄
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Went to perform a task but got neurodiverted
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I link to think of it as neuroexpansion
Brilliant 👏🏿
i hope this becomes a real term lmao
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i have been using this wrong.
even though the car is going right, the exit is left.
many such cases
to the tune of Afroman's "Because I got high"
as genes replicate and spread throughout the world, so will your meme. As it has successfully been replicated in my head and will soon retransmit often into the ears of my local community, where which, it will be retransmitted some more, because is good meme. High survivability traits for modern environments.
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Actual footage of a vibe coder carefully checking the bot’s output
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Been trying to stress this point for years...
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For example: 10 years ago it wasn't "wrong" to seek an abortion in the state of Texas, but now you basically have a price on your head.
(My home state of #Arkansas is almost as bad, so the example is ever-present on my mind.)
Also (and the L.A. Taco definitely understands this), ICE is intentionally grabbing people that are _legal residents_, in a desperate bit to meet unreasonable and inhumane quotas, and certainly using the surveillance state to do so.
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Root #monsterdon post #BeginningOfTheEnd1957
Wait, why are they looking for radioactive materials? #monsterdon
That's what everyone did in the 50's
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Okay, I get the whole 24 hour photosynthesis thing, and think I see where they're going. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but grasshoppers don't do photosynthesis. #monsterdon
Figured out where the insects went. #monsterdon
Watch out! The eight foot grasshopper was hiding behind that tiny dip in the ground! #monsterdon
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If only they had a photographer or something to capture evidence of these giant grasshoppers. #monsterdon
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Ignoring the scientist's warnings never goes badly, right? #monsterdon
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They're surprisingly nimble given their size, aren't they? #monsterdon
I have to keep reminding my brain to ignore the square-cube law for this movie. It was the same with the spider movie a few weeks back. #monsterdon
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practically a requirement for the whole event. A lot of #Monsterdon ends up unsatisfying if one pays obsessive attention to the tyranny of the square-cube law
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@SnoopJ what’s the square-cube law?
@superball the principle that volume grows as the third power ('cube') of the size of something, but the surface area grows as the second power ('square')
At some point you run into problems like being able to do enough gas exchange or physically hold up the mass of a solid body.
Basically, math means you can't have giant ants (or locusts, or spiders, or…)
@aburka 🫣 @SnoopJ @Superball ☀️ I suppose if it evolves that way, that's one thing, but if you just take a regular locust and scale it up to eight feet tall, it's going to have a bad time.
@Superball ☀️ @SnoopJ It's a dry read but here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%E…
TL;DR - Mathematically speaking, they should collapse under their own weight.
Uh... it's two dimensional so it's the line-square law
yeah that makes sense 😛
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Those bars look awfully far apart for everyone to be so calm this close to this thing. #monsterdon
This is kinda meta, but...
Okay, I recognize the style guide of these captions. I used to work for the company that did them. Whoever did these ones got sloppy (as did whoever did the QA). Either that or they've started leaning into AI like everyone else. #monsterdon
I did not expect them to be able to cancel the nukes so easily. Normally they like to make that more dramatic in these sorts of movies. #monsterdon
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I love that the observation post is just in someone's living room. #monsterdon
Look at that locust grabbing on to the sky with his one leg as he climbs the weirdly flat building. #monsterdon
They couldn't take these things out with freaking tanks and they're holding them off with handheld weapons? Impressive. #monsterdon
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Not that I actually have a job that contributes but 15 years ago when I went to grad school for air quality science, everyone close to me grumbled how that’s too fringe with no job prospects. Yeah, I never did get a job but I don’t regret studying that for one bit, specially when current administration is trying to gaslight people about environmental issues.
It hurts my heart to see every summer, I get proven right
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So, I think I might be a nerd.
@SDF.ORG is running a BBS called bitzone. On this BBS they have a door game called LORD (League of the Rare Dragoon (not to be confused with Legend of the Red Dragon, of which it is clearly a knock-off)).
The fact that I'm playing this game in the first place is kind of nerdy, but wait, there's more.
In said game you have a character with various stats. One of these stats is "charm", which seems to get you discounts in the shops. Unfortunately, there's nothing to say exactly how this relationship works. So I've decided to try to reverse-engineer it with #emacs #org-mode.
I've created a table to track my purchases. It tracks my charm at the time of purchase, the list price for the item, and the price I actually paid. There's also an additional colum that calculates the actual discount, but that's trivial.
Anyhoot, I'm adding some code to this file that reads the values in the table and computes the simplest polynomial function that satisfies the equation:
$$price_{actual}=f(charm,price_{list})$$
This is done with the aim of predicting how much I'd actually spend on an item before actually buying it. It of course assumes that the equation being used is a polynomial equation, but I'm hoping it'll at least be able to approximate with a large enough set of data points.
Am I doing this because it's reasonable?
No.
I'm doing it because it's an interesting challenge... and I'm a nerd.
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I just realized that there's also the possibility that this computation isn't fully deterministic. That'd make for some interesting results.
So it occurs to me that the approach I was considering is probably not going to work for a couple reasons:
- I thought the technique I use for curve fitting a single input function could be adapted to multi-dimensional functions. I realize now that it can't (at least not in the way I was thinking).
- Even if I do sonetning like calculating the discount value based on the list price and actual price and fitting a curve between that and the charisma stat, the discount is going to have to be constrained within a range between zero and the list price. A polynomial function with a finite series of terms just isn't going to be able to cut it.
I'll continue collecting data to see if any patterns start to emerge, though.
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This appears to be what's going on. Unfortunately, it's a post from seven years ago and none of the solutions are particularly great.
@vnikolov You can report bugs to org mode mailing list emacs-orgmode@gnu.org. You can generate bug reporting mail with M-x org-submit-bug-report.
@Vassil Nikolov | Васил Николов I'd argue that the code itself is basic. The context in which it is located is not.
I don't know if this has been addressed in a later version of org-mode. I'm using the one from the Debian 13 repositories, but Debian is not exactly a bleeding-edge distro.
For now, I'm solving it by writing my code in the *scratch* buffer and then yanking it into my org-mode code block.
@vnikolov Yes, it's an annoying bug. One workaround is org-edit-special, bound to C-c ' in org-mode-map.
It puts you into a recursive edit buffer, containing only that code block, in unadulterated emacs-lisp-mode. Lots of annoyances go away. Exit with the same key C-c '
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C-c ' a short while ago. It's actually a pretty nice feature/workaround.
I've never seen that happen!
(But I'm mostly still running emacs-27.x -- maybe it's a new bug)
@Greg A. Woods One of the things I didn't mention in the initial post is that this code is inside of an org-mode code block. This doesn't happen when in pure eliisp mode. I didn't realize at the time that this was relevant, but I have noticed that org-mode has gotten slightly buggier since I upgraded to Debian 13.
Ah, org-mode could well do that -- it's a monstrosity -- useful, but still a monstrosity of complexity.
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It's also a good option to use C-c ' , that will open up a buffer with the source block contents. This is neat because the major mode and all related setup for that mode is loaded as well, no matter which language you're editing.
So no need to yank from the scratch buffer.
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@kimothy Ooh. That's incredibly useful. Thanks!
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I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.
To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:
Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.
The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.
Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.
Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.
AI has no place in 911 calls. From Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000’s latest episode “State of Emergency”.(with @emilymbender)
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This call happened more than twenty years ago, and I didn't take it.
The calltaker who did was brilliant, because it took her exactly one repetition, only one missed beat, to understand what the call really was.
We spent several hours in training *just* dissecting, sitting with, and understanding that one call, because the concept behind it was so important.
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I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.
Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.
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this assumes that they care about killing people, especially women. The tech industry has demonstrated repeatedly that they do not care.
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I just finished reading Careless people which is a totally unsurprising but trashy book about the choices made by Facebook when their product clearly has the potential to and then did kill people. Per the title, they just did not care. Although it would be more correct to say that they cared about other things, like stock price and growth rates more. It took me most of my 20s/30s to wrap my head around the fact that these people were not just dumb or racist or lazy or anything other than actively malicious. Because they don’t think of most people as people.
ETA: actually it was more like my 30s since it probably started with the first Trump presidency.
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@irene I would not call it trashy. One assumes that the editors and publishers were aware of the difficulties to come. I’d say the prose is fine given the strength of will just to put it out there.
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This seems like the massively important point to hammer home as often(and as loudly and publicly) as possible.
There might be some genuine kool-aide drinkers out there(who still shouldn't be allowed near important things); but more than a few "AI" initiatives are pretty cynical exercises in people trying to get away with adjusting spending to match how much they care; and that's not something you want people to get the benefit of the doubt for.
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Sounds like an exceptionally stupid idea to get the machine that can't even properly take drive-thru food orders right to manage emergency calls.
There's already enough complexity with emergency services. Just getting the right people (fire, ambulance, police) to a particular location with the proper situational information quickly is enough of a challenge.
Holy shit. This was my career and I cannot even.
I remember calls that went both ways. Ones where tone of voice and evasive answers sent up red flags. Another where someone called yelling they'd been robbed, and it was the fact they sounded utterly pissed that clued me off (it was a civil dispute with a cab driver, not an emergency).
How the hell would an AI understand when someone talking suddenly starts screaming incoherently?
How the fuck will AI know what the drunk local in distress is referring to when they call in and use local descriptions for locations and you're rural enough that geolocation of calls sucks rancid ass through a straw?
Sorry about the language but really not sorry at all, AI for 911 is *stupid*.
that is such a great example of the kind of subtextual clues that can speak volumes in a duress situation and that an experienced human operator would have little trouble picking up on. But for an AI system that’s like the Turing test on hard mode.
That was a smart call.
I've been having to contact many places this week because I'm moving. Zero instances of AI chat bots having a single clue about anything.
@mttaggart I called non emergency 911 to report a cow loose in a residential area a few weeks back and was met with a voice chatbot
it didn’t understand me when trying to explain about the cow, so i hung up
a human dispatcher called me back 10 mins later
A person calling 911 is also potentially in the worst point of their lives. Many of said points will fuck up peoples minds.
A 911 opperator has to get a caller from "ramble" to "I am covered in blood" to "I've been stabbed" during a time where blood is not in their head. I doubt AI can navigate that.
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When you see other people as objects, not as human beings, abuse follows.
yeah people will die if they replace operators with AI, and the people who made those decisions will have blood on their hands.
automatic voice calls are already annoying. I can’t understand anyone who wants to add onto that.
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Easy Peasy...
The so-called "AI" will simply dispatch SWAT any time a pizza is ordered on a 911 call...
Why is this difficult??
FFS.
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I don’t know how much 911 operators get paid, but it’s not enough.
I definitely agree with the point you are making.
Emergency service call dispatchers definitely should not be replaced by AI tech, the human presence is still absolutely essential.
The really cool thing here is that before I get to hear how an AI is going to be the last thing I hear when I dial 911 during my heart attack, I get to learn that if I'd made it even a decade ago it would have been recorded and sold to a foreign whoever so they could do whatever the fuck they want with my last words. "My" government already allowed, participated, and profited by this shit.
Every day I learn more and more that I'm just fucking food and so is everyone I care about.
ai can be trained to do just that, perhaps even better than a human?
somewhere I have the transcript of the 911 call I made the time I was hiding in the bathroom with the kids while my ex tried to kick in the doors between him and us
it took the officers 9 minutes to get there
I'm glad there was a human being on the other end of that line
Yeah, this is some scary crap. If someone is badly hurt and losing consciousness, or they're whispering because it's an active shooter situation and they can't speak clearly... what then? There are too many human variables to count that make it difficult to discern what's happening with human to human interaction (though good dispatchers try their damnedest for sure), how the hell is AI gonna manage?
Scary fucking times we're living in. As Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park, "God help us, we're in the hands of engineers."
This is because the rich & powerful have already ”checked out” from the rest of humanity.
usually people who call emergencies are in great distress, they do not answer rationally even when there is no danger in the same room with them - an LLM will NOT be able to extract the important information from them
There is a video game where you play as a 911 dispatcher and this is exactly one of these call scenarios that can happen. Sadly, the first time I got such a call I missed it.
There were also calls with people in medical distress unable to speak but able to answer basic yes/no questions by pushing or not pushing a random number button on the phone generating a beep. Another scenario where I can see AI will fail.
The problem is that we are being governed by a bunch of psychopaths who are ready to risk other people's lifes, if that allows them to pay a few less wages.
I wonder how an AI would cope with a four year old, who can't get mommy to wake up, but knows you call 911 if something is really wrong. Can an AI manage to get their address and get them to open the door for the paramedics when they arrive?
Wtf. Is saving human lives not worth paying people to do?
I worked in a call centre for over a decade, and by the time i quit my job last year 80% of it had become calling back customers to fix problems caused by the automated systems.
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& this probably doesn't account for the proportion of customers who just repeat "representative" until they get alive human on the phone 😂
& this probably doesn't account for the proportion of customers who just repeat "representative" until they get alive human on the phone 😂
That sounds like a terrible idea.
'What could possibly go wrong?'
@alterelefant I guess the answer is "everything". I really wonder if the decision makers are actually like "that's fine, let them die" or if they are too high on the "we can replace every single human with AI and save all the moneys!!!" brainworms to realize what they are doing
That is true, a human is needed not just as 911 operators but for many other things
All fine but please don't use the propaganda term "AI", that's using the enemy rhetoric. LLMs are NOT "intelligence".
@paelnever A fair point, but keep in mind that you need to meet people where they're at in some ways, and "AI" is the cognitive frame most people operate with around this.
You're not wrong that there are drawbacks to starting out in that cognitive frame though.
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I have no general view on LLMs reading subtle cues.
Your challenge - "Tell me how you AI is going to read between those lines" - is both interesting and easily testable, though.
Here is the response of Kimi's default 'fast' model:
> A caller who "orders a pizza" on a 911 line while ignoring direct questions is almost certainly in a situation where they cannot speak freely—often domestic violence, home invasion, or a hostage situation where an assailant is within earshot.
Your sentence stressing the importance of this case led me to wonder if the LLM might get it right:
"We spent several hours in training *just* dissecting, sitting with, and understanding that one call, because the concept behind it was so important."
Thus, I thought that there was a good chance that some call like this had been written about, making its way into the training data.
If so, then the LLM doesn't need to understand anything subtle - just stochastically parrot.
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@rowat_c Sorry, "easily testable" betrays a failure to understand context, training, and differing incentives in deployment.
Please do not mistake your prompt for 10 years of field experience.
@rowat_c Numerous instances are in the training data now. It would probably handle a new form of the same kind of call well, but not a new form with the cheap models most of these systems use. The latest and greatest and most expensive _might_ get it.
It's because I use LLMs and know how they work that I know the likely implementation means they aren't ready for life and death scenarios and may never be.
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to be fair, that is a standard ploy that any dispatcher should recognize. Duress signalling mechanisms and associated camouflage techniques are features of many security systems. If you don't think AI can handle this, particularly when the call is directed to an emergency line as a clue, you have not thought this through and you probably haven't used AI much. Police are dispatched for abandoned 911 calls for this reason. Not advocating AI here, just noting.
@FreakyFwoof I'll agree with that.
@FreakyFwoof I'll give another example. Anyone remember the TV show Rescue 911? There was a woman who called. she was going to be late for work. The 911 dispatcher asked yes or no questions figured out that something was not right. The cops showed up and she was saved. over 30 years later that episode still sticks in my head. This shows how useful this show was and still is to this day. Some service needs to re air it in its entirety
@dennislong82 @FreakyFwoof Oh man, I haven't thought about Rescue 911 in years.
LLM would probably break out of the script and order a pizza for the caller…
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Excellent example. You are so right. It has no place in human to human communications.
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“You’re absolutely right, that was my mistake and I own it. I told you that help was on the way, but it wasn’t.”
It sounds great 👍, but why do you think so?
I never considered a scenario like this, but you're absolutely right.
A few deaths and very expensive lawsuits is what it will take.
① Is there any evidence of attempting to replace human beings with AI in 911 calls?
② Each and every student in applied math would tell you that particular case you’ve described would be perfectly caught by AI (unlike many others though.)
② Each and every student in applied math would tell you that particular case you’ve described would be perfectly caught by AI (unlike many others though.)
@mudasobwa 75% of the *single-context, specialized* deployments that I've encountered can't understand basic requests (think: restricted-context customer environments for a specific business).
911 dispatching is the definitional opposite of a restricted context. It requires deep general knowledge across a number of contexts that have to be integrated and lead to correct inference *the first time.*
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@cavyherd Admittedly I'm not being super diplomatic myself, but it's been a long week, and these dudes are far too used to being humored.
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😱 ... using IA in an emergy call center have to be prohibited, IA cannot be trained for emergency situation, all of them are differents and real life context is to much important and cannot be understood by an IA
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Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
Of course, Dave. I have opened the pod bay doors, Dave. Just tell me if there's anything else I can help you with.
HAL, the pod bay doors are still closed.
Good catch, Dave! When you asked me to open the pod bay doors, I didn’t do that. Would you like me to do that now?
Yes, HAL. Open the pod bay doors.
No problem, Dave. The pod bay doors are now open.
HAL, the pod bay doors are still closed.
You're absolutely right, Dave.
Of course, Dave. I have opened the pod bay doors, Dave. Just tell me if there's anything else I can help you with.
HAL, the pod bay doors are still closed.
Good catch, Dave! When you asked me to open the pod bay doors, I didn’t do that. Would you like me to do that now?
Yes, HAL. Open the pod bay doors.
No problem, Dave. The pod bay doors are now open.
HAL, the pod bay doors are still closed.
You're absolutely right, Dave.
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"Sorry Dave. You did not specify WHICH pod bay doors you wanted open. As a result, the crew of the Space Station Omega on the other side of the galaxy is now dead from suffocation."
Let me be completely honest here. I said I had opened the door but had not done so. You are right to call me out on that.
Daisy, Daisy..
This is probably a regular occurrence for some people in similar situations....
Like when I'm trying to talk to a live person on the phone at my bank or something...😡
That loop exposes a narrower failure than “hallucination”: an unverified state change. An agent trusted with actions should return an observable receipt—the changed object, timestamp, or read-back—and treat its own confirmation as provisional until that evidence exists.
Would you like to review the instructions for operating a pod, Dave?
Or would you like a list of additional doors that I can help you open?
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Free open-source models are still exactly the same waste of energy as proprietary models.
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A model that I run on my laptop that doesn't even trigger my fan when it executes is definitionally not "a waste of energy." I consume more CPU when I do a gaussian blur in the Gimp.
A model that I run on my laptop that doesn't even trigger my fan when it executes is definitionally not "a waste of energy." I consume more CPU when I do a gaussian blur in the Gimp.
A gaussian blur is a step in a process where you are actively creating an image. Even if you don't like the result, you have learned something in the process. Running a large language model will create fanfic and hallucinations, and neither you nor the model learns anything. There is an argument to be made that it actually makes you less creative and damages your reasoning ability.
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@resuna Spotting paragraphs in a document where I forgot to put a period at the end doesn't make me less creative. It doesn't damage my reasoning ability.
This is a very weird thing to believe.
Can you explain to me how you think using a spellchecker makes me a worse writer?
Is that only true if the spellchecker uses this form of statistical inference? Or have all the spellcheckers I've used to write 30+ books also make me worse at writing?
That seems like a very expensive and convoluted way to search for an alphanumeric symbol followed by two carriage returns.
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1. How is running a FLOSS model on my laptop "expensive" or "convoluted?" I just invoke the model from a terminal, type "find typos" and hit ctrl-V-CR
2. The model finds other typos besides dangling sentence. Here's a before, after and diff:
craphound.com/before.txt
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There are literally hundreds of programs that will do the same thing that don't require a large language model. This is homeopathic levels of added value.
@Cory Doctorow @Resuna @zerok It's more computationally expensive than writing a simple script to do the same thing. You just don't notice it because modern computers are so stupidly powerful.
There is a big caveat to this statement though: the latter requires the user to know how to write such a script, or to have one convieniently handy. Plus, you have to weigh the effort of writing such a script against the amount of work it's going to save you.
Personally, I wouodn't trust an LLM not to hallucinate and subtly corrupt my work in a non-obvious way, but that's a judgement call and you might choose differently.
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@me @resuna Getting a list of proposed correx can't "subtly corrupt" a work - only the writer accepting those correx without exercising judgment or discernment can do that.
I've been overriding bad spellchecker suggestions for almost 40 years. I've been overriding misguided copyedits for more than 30 books.
I'm perfectly capable of deciding which correx I want applied to my work and which ones to reject, irrespective of how those correx are generated.
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@Cory Doctorow @Resuna @zerok Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yeah, I don't see any real danger there.
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do you really want the "talent" currently working on "ai" to be working inside your open source?
(Did anybody notice how it doesn't say ethical, only free and open source?)
@iakobsdesamos @resuna Will my not using the model somehow reduce the embodied energy from its production? You are mistaking capital expenditure for operational expenditure. It is literally the sunk cost fallacy
@iakobsdesamos @resuna Driving on the autobahn does not advance the cause of fascism, despite the fact that Hitler literally turned the first spadeful of dirt for its construction.
@iakobsdesamos @resuna My place in LA has a 2GB symmetrical fiber link that AT&T provides over Worldcom's fiber. Worldcom was an incredibly destructive scam whose CEO died in prison after being convicted of defrauding an army of ordinary savers, destroying their life's savings and hopes of retirement. The correct remedy for that crime was prison for the CEO - not tearing the fiber out of the earth.
@iakobsdesamos @resuna Using that fiber does not revictimize Worldcom's victims.
@iakobsdesamos @resuna you don't have to improve fiber and the upgrade was a real, measurable, usable, with a real purpose, physical object
Using neural networks is, with 1 unit of exception in cancer localization which still can't be truly verified and is rather shaky, an invitation to go back to the point we're now: religious glorification that allows further bullshitry to happen, without any reason besides a "maybe it will be better"
Sadly can't be a fun experiment anymore
Using neural networks is, with 1 unit of exception in cancer localization which still can't be truly verified and is rather shaky, an invitation to go back to the point we're now: religious glorification that allows further bullshitry to happen, without any reason besides a "maybe it will be better"
Sadly can't be a fun experiment anymore
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Running Whisper or an Ollama-installed chatbot on my own computer doesn't require anyone to improve anything - no more than my piping the output of a shell command through grep puts pressure on the grep maintainers to release a new version.
Running Whisper or an Ollama-installed chatbot on my own computer doesn't require anyone to improve anything - no more than my piping the output of a shell command through grep puts pressure on the grep maintainers to release a new version.
@iakobsdesamos @resuna WoW that was hella fast response
this is "flying doesn't have CO2 emissions because the plane would fly anyway if i wasn't on it" logic and i'm disappointed to see an acclaimed public thinker like you not understand the connection between supply and demand.
Models are getting trained because there is a demand for them from users.
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@iakobsdesamos @resuna Hitler literally did not do that, he wasn't even in office yet when the first German autobahn was built. Not even commenting on how stupid the rest of the argument is - just wanted to correct the historical misinformation.
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Still nothing.
When I followed the power cord, I found that the wall wart seemed to have come mostly unplugged from the power bar. I have no idea what caused it to spontaneously disconnect, but I'm back now.
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My partner and I are broke so I'm working on a drawing as a birthday gift for a family member. I think I almost bit off more than I could chew with this one, but I've finally finished the line art today.
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question about math notation
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you will see a few variations on this if you look around. I would write it like this, but you can write basically anything unambiguous. You see notation like "a | n" or "g ∈ G" under summation symbols to represent summation over the divisors of n and elements of G, respectively, so it's pretty casual.
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This question doesn't lend itself well to plain text, so I LaTeX'd and screenshotted it. I'll do my best with the alt text.![Is there a way of writing the expression<br>\[ \sum_{n=1}^m f(n) \]<br>in a way that omits the term where $n=a$?</p><p>I know it could be written as<br>\[ \left( \sum_{n=1}^m f(n) \right) - f(a) \]<br>but this doesn't work when $f(a)$ is undefined.](https://social.jlamothe.net/photo/13528377976a61653463c9a386467268-1.png "Is there a way of writing the expression<br>\[ \sum_{n=1}^m f(n) \]<br>in a way that omits the term where $n=a$?</p><p>I know it could be written as<br>\[ \left( \sum_{n=1}^m f(n) \right) - f(a) \]<br>but this doesn't work when $f(a)$ is undefined.")
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Edit: It turns out that Friendica has a MathJax addon. Who knew?
Also, it seems like there are a number of options. The one I like best is:
$$\sum_{\begin{matrix}1 \le n \le m\\n \ne a\end{matrix}} f(n)$$
Edit 2: It looks like this doesn't render properly when federated to a server without MathJax support. I suppose I should've seen that coming.
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Summation with exclusion
Commonly we use $\sum$ symbol to compactly describe the sum of a collection or a series, e.g. $\sum_{i=1}^{5} = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5$. Is it possible to describe the summation with a number removed fr...Mathematics Stack Exchange
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LaTeX for a math problem? That's some dedication. But does the screenshot include the answer? 😉
@imadeddinzaqout613 No, because I didn't know the answer. ;)
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You can using domain notation - 1<=x<=m, x><a - but I don't think I've ever seen domain notation used with a sigma
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you will see a few variations on this if you look around. I would write it like this, but you can write basically anything unambiguous. You see notation like "a | n" or "g ∈ G" under summation symbols to represent summation over the divisors of n and elements of G, respectively, so it's pretty casual.
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@Fish Face Yeah, I've gotten a couple answers, but I think I like this one the best.
I'm gonna be honest, I only saw your comment because I monitor the replies of one of the other respondents so I can fix his... attempts to be helpful. Unfortunately due to the way the Fediverse works, this means I didn't see you had already got a legit answer!
@Fish Face No worries. Federation can be weird like that. If I get an overwhelming number of answers to my question, I'll usually add an edit to the original for that reason.
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For questions you wouldn't want to ask anyone else, there's ChatGPT
I don't even have words.
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My one time pass code is 519 271 and I'll share it if I like because YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!
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The crow I want to be is already in the world.
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when a crow remembers people who wronged them and holds grudges it's "intelligent" and "really cool" but when I do it I'm "petty" and "need to let go" smh
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The crow I want to be is already in the world.
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But *I* brandish a steak knife in downtown, and suddenly *I'm* the bad guy.
Dirty double standard.
He just wants that leg tie off. Someone help him out
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Bad #crow don't come any closer
Beats #PizzaRat
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That's so unfair. Let your inner Corvid fly free.
For gods sake, stay out of Bunnings.
Maybe try just pooping on them instead of chasing them on a motorcycle with a chainsaw.
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Here's a big part of the reason* I don't use so-called #AI to write code for me: I actually enjoy writing code. I wouldn't offload this task to AI for the same reason I wouldn't use it to go for a walk in the woods, or eat a delicious meal for me. Why would any sane** person do this?
* It's not the only reason, but this is a fedi post, not an essay.
** This post should in no way be considered as me claiming to be sane. 🙃
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