A great conversation in the supporter Discord/Matrix reminded me that it's about time to share this fantastic item by @heydon.
Anyway, yes HTML is a programming language and folks who argue with this statement in my comments will be muted, blocked, defederated, or all three.
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Because I have a habit of misplacing things, I have a rule where my glasses are concerned: on my face or in the case.*
This rule does not help me so much when I misplace the case itself.
* This also serves to prevent me from leaving my glasses somewhere that they might be damaged.
#ADHD
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My son has a much loved audiobook that he listens to every night. But. One of the line reads in it scared him sometimes, and he sometimes fears to listen because he's worried about it.
We talked, and we're experimenting with a version of the story where the line is said in my voice, I opened the file, cut out the scary line, said it instead in my voice, and left the rest of the audiobook intact.
Talk to me again about DRM.
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@Mister Spinalzo yeah! I 100% paid for the book for my son to enjoy! The line reading was great! But sometimes the line read of "a dragon surprises the main character" is too scarey for an anxious 5yo!
Thanks for writting books it's important work!
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βNot cool, brain,β i sometimes quip. We have fun, me and my brain.
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- It's been sitting here for hours and it's cold.
- Oh sweet summer child, if I didn't drink cold tea, I wouldn't ever get to drink any tea at all. And not for lack of trying.
So the doctor has me on a heart monitor. I'm supposed to wear it for 72 hours and go about my life as normal. First night in, I woke up to two of the leads having detached.
When I was there, they showed me how to replace them and gave me spares so I was able to do that, but this doesn't bode well for the next two nights. I can't control what I do while unconscious.
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I did some work on porting miller's work on the risc-v userspace over to 9front, the toolchain works well enough to compile all of /sys/src (at least at the time of its writing). There was some work on a qemu targeted kernel but people lost steam and we never got it booting to userspace.
If you want to check out the userspace parts you can find it here: shithub.us/moody/riscv/HEAD/inβ¦
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@moody I probably don't have the C for this, but I wanna! I am gonna look and then mostly get lost.
I should buy DevTerm R01s for some Plan9 devs...
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For this reason, I do a research about one new ink to see if I want to buy it.
I look at as many tests as I can found, because the colors on some of them look very different.
And you can't be sure until you do your own color test.
Thanks for sharing yours.
Got back hone from an appointment with a form that specifically says it's to be filled out with blue or black ink.
Why do people have to be so boring?
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So it seems that to get the full effect of these new #FountainPen #inks, we need to get our hands on a wetter pen than the ones we've been using.
I have a TWSBI Diamond 580 that should fit the bill, but I'm waiting on a replacement cap that's stuck in the mail strike.
In the meantime, can anyone recommend a reasonably priced (ideally in the sub $100 range) that lays down a good amount of ink?
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A CEO gets murdered, and there's a cash reward and a national manhunt along with coverage on every outlet imaginable. Law enforcement pleading for help from the public. Former NYPD Chief of Department made a statement expressing how the person who killed the CEO is not prepared for "how far the NYPD is going to go" in collecting surveillance for the investigation.
The reality is that cops don't even solve most murders. And they sure as hell don't put a fraction of the effort in finding the suspects as they do when it's someone like this. Someone like them. One of them.
Two migrants were recently stabbed in NY, one of them fatally so. It won't get this same kind of attention and resources. The only people and things police serve are the ruling class and their property.
Law enforcement and people in positions of power such as the CEO devalue the lives of many to benefit their own.
Ever since the news came out about the CEO, the responses have been overwhelmingly celebratory.
People all across the country have been wounded by the same sword. All sorts of people have been relating to the violence these vultures perpetuate.
I really hope people don't let it stop here and think about all the ways in which we are impacted by an inherently oppressive capitalist system.
abc7ny.com/post/migrant-teen-sβ¦
Migrant teen stabbed to death, another wounded in Lower Manhattan; 3 suspects sought
Police say before the chaos, words were exchanged when one of the suspects asked the teens if they spoke English. When they replied 'no,' that's when things took a turn for the worse.Eyewitness News (ABC7 New York)
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How old does a #FountainPen have to be before it's considered #vintage? The very first one I ever bought back in 2012 (a Parker GT Urban) doesn't seem to be available any more, though it is still available in ballpoint. Still, maybe I'm just getting old but 2012 doesn't feel very "vintage" to me.
I mean, it's kinda scuffed up because I was a newbie who had no idea how to take care of it, but I'm not looking to sell it or anything. It's more of a curiosity, really.
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@FPLover The whole WEARINGEUL brand is pretty nice* but yeah this is it here.
* perhaps a little dry, but I've only actually tried one so far
*looks at my collection of inks*
*whistles innocently*
To be fair, they're mostly samples, relatively few actual bottles.
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Some people are now thinking the murder of the UHC CEO was a professional hit.
As I've said before (and others have been disagreeing with me), murdering people for profit is wrong.
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So I went into the pharmacy to follow up on the renewal of my #ADHD meds. Turns out this new doctor did in fact respond to the fax requesting the renewal but specifically specified not to fill it until the literal day I was supposed to run out.
Fortunately, I occasionally forget to take them, so I have a few spares, but God damn this guy doesn't understand how ADHD works.
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Debian is fine.
Folks like to complain that the packages are too old, but Flatpak makes that not even a thing anymore for most of us.
You know what I like? That I can pull out a laptop I haven't touched in three weeks and there's little that needs updating.
Debian? It's fine. If you like it, you're fine too.
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I use Carolina A7 Mini Composition Books, because they fit in a shirt pocket. $1.99 for a pack of 4 at Bi-Mart, so they're a fraction of the price of fancy notepads. And yet they have a sewn binding, and the paper is adequate. Part of my everyday carry.
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@Dianora (Diane Bruce) I was a little out of practice, but my handwriting's starting to improve again, though I've mostly been writing in teeline (shorthand) which is pretty illegible in the first place.
I don't feel the need to gatekeep the term "hobbyist". I consider myself to have been a hobbyist from the day I bought my first fountain pen.
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Autism Databases: What Can I Do?
I have had a few people email me over the years asking what they can do to fight against state autism databases. Whenever this issue gets attention, I am glad and hopeful that we can move towards eliminating these databases. At the same time, I do not always have the bandwidth to answer every message I get (except messages from clients, which I do my best to always answer).
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Autism Databases: What Can I Do?
I have had a few people email me over the years asking what they can do to fight against state autism databases. Whenever this issue gets attention, I am glad and hopeful that we can move towards eβ¦Resiliency Mental Health
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@Sable_Shade Honestly I canβt find good reasons why these exist. Idk about any policies in Australia as Iβve never practiced there but I hope they do not have one!
North Dakotaβs heath department states they need the information for βresearch purposesβ but are not at all transparent about what that even means. Most I can find is they exist because the government refuses to stop them
@Dr. Amy, Psy.D. @Sable Shade π¦πΊ π No one throughout history has ever done anything nefarious in the name of "research purposes", right?
Right??
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>" North Dakotaβs heath department states they need the information for βresearch purposesβ but are not at all transparent about what... "
be unlawful without consent??
It is here, I'm pretty sure of that (NOT a lawyer!).
It sickens me that more professionals, any, do not speak out on these things and call on those who can, to help!
Thanks FYTπ
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to manually revive themselves if they didn't get the respawn dialog.
Yes, I realized this when re-reading you, apart from the fact that he recreates an account, I don't see what you can do to get the player out of this situation.
This is a bug that I've never had and I don't know how to change it, sorry.
Maybe forcing the respawn will be enough, I hope so anyway.
Reading through the "Light and Truth Letter" a totally-not-written-by-the-church response to the infamous CES Letter that's been plaguing Mormonism for years now.
It's amazing* how they seem to have managed to not seriously engage with a single one of the issues I have with the church.
#ExMormon #NotACult #CESLetter
* not really
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Wow, I finally got to my "shelf breaker" item: the way the church handles reports of sexual abuse. They actually have the audacity to list "the helpline"* as something that makes people safer.
This is some real Ministry of Truth shit.
Source: lightandtruthletter.org/letterβ¦
* You know, the helpline that has instructed these untrained bishops to not report to the authorities and then move to sweep them under the rug.
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Let's see how this works with the dish soap trick. I actually think it looks pretty nice.I think it's working nicely. It's still pretty light but I think I like it.
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This is Wearingeul Enki in a Lamy Safari medium nib.It's certainly not the darkest colour and it doesn't seem to travel down the feed very well but it is a beautiful colour.
Probably not one I'd use as a daily driver.
Here it is in my dip pen instead [darker colour with some feathering]
I thin I'm having some toruble getting it to run through the feed.
When it does flow, it looksnice though. That said, I find I need to apply more pressure to the pen than I am accustomed to using.
Probably not a daily driver but looks nice anyway.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.../inhales/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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So, the Wal-Mart pharmacy has an app that tells you when your prescriptions are due for refilling. Pretty convenient right? Problem is that it's consistently wrong.
Guess I've got to go home and do a physical inventory of my drugs now.
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So much of my job is this over and over again on a loop:
"So what do you think we should do in order to responsibly build the Torment Nexus?"
"You can't. It's a Torment Nexus. Stop it."
"But the Torment Nexus is inevitable!"
"It's not. You could just not do it. You could stop right now."
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"You have been found guilty of murder."
"But, judge, he would eventually have died anyway."
"..."
Well, I guess I have a cardiologist now.
That was not something I was expecting to be a thing this morning.
Veronica Explains
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •The question of "is HTML a programming language" is never about definitions.
It's about excluding a group of laborers from receiving equal compensation to others, as well as a means to justify not teaching engineers how to center web content without several frameworks.
I will not be taking questions.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I think I might.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I've never viewed this question from a social equality perspective. I've only ever taken it from a technological perspective, and one of the lineage of HTML from SGML->XML->HTML.
Of course the social aspects of equality for labor goes without saying. No argument.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I couldn't care less if HTML is or isn't a "programming language"...
What I do know is that developers who write HTML are programmers, and their skills and efforts are extremely valuable. They deserve to be appropriately compensated and respected for their knowledge and work.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •apparently, I was wrong. HTML+CSS is a programming language.
brandondong.github.io/css-turiβ¦
CSS Turing Machine Compiler
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I didn't know that question was a matter of labour rights. (I'm not anywhere near that industry, though) Good to know!
I definitely thought it was some pedantic/academic watercooler conversation.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •This recent talk from Felienne Hermans (βA Case for Feminism in Programming Language Designβ) points in a similar direction: a hard-to-learn language is βmore like programmingβ just because it isβ¦ harder to learn (than spreadsheets for example).
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HTML, The Programming Language
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Like I wrote on my wiki:
HTML is a programming language. There, I said it.
It's a programming language because it lets people tell the computer to do cool stuff. In this case, show all kinds of things on screen. That's not much, you say? So what. It's fun. Meaningful. Often even useful.
So, you can't use HTML to perform computation. Big deal. It's been a long time since computers were all, or even mainly, about computation. Deal with it.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •that's one way to see it. but web developer and trucker were the two number one jobs in the US, and nothing drives wages down like too many applicants.
HTML/CSS is definitely a programming language though.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Have to confess I was in the βno it isnβtβ camp for a long time. Not out of a sense of superiority (or insecurity), but on the question of Turing completeness. But I can relate to the idea of a declarative DSL, and tip my hat to those who have mastered all of the complexity of HTML and CSS across the fragmented browser landscape.
Thank you for sharing this link.
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in reply to Golden Bunny of Destiny π―πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •@davew yeah the whole Turing completeness thing feels rational but there's plenty out there that lacks it. Like, I'd say someone who is writing regex is programming, but I don't think it's Turing complete?
The fact that we don't have this conversation about SQL or regex betrays the real reason for the distinction IMO, and it has more to do with a perception of who is doing the work instead of a real discussion of the merits of the language.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •i think a good counter-example to html/css being "just markup" is all the cool stuff people on cohost came up with back when it was still around
here's a list of many of them, there's a lot of really cool stuff there (it's all inline-only css and html):
cohost.org/YellowAfterlife/posβ¦
i've made a few as well - for example
this is a 3d first person game with free movement and interactive elements: cohost.org/rebane2001/post/791β¦
and this is a blackjack implementation that implements randomness, and does math and logic to figure out what the card totals are and who won the game: cohost.org/rebane2001/post/563β¦
i don't think you need an example like one of those to call something programming, but they are pretty effective at demonstrating being "more of a program" than most landing pages programmed with a js web framework out there
i think the argument is dumb anyways because it's usually not brought up to help someone, but to instead make them seem inferior for not using "a real programming language" or to just be annoying about it
Some of the CSS crimes of all times
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Unknown parent • • •@mausmalone I don't think most rational people ever really think about it. Other than as a means to separate front-end work from other work from a compensation purpose.
Folks on the internet like to make a fuss about it but they literally couldn't design their way out of a paper bag so there's that.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I think human tendency to shorten things is the problem. When people ask "is it programming language", they don't usually mean THAT, but "is it Turing-complete programming language". In other words: "Can I port Doom to run under it?"
Not that there aren't surprises there too: in that specific sense PostScript, LaTeX and Minecraft are "(Turing-complete) programming languages", while regexps, SQL and HTML aren't.
The term shouldn't be related to their market value, though...
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in reply to Veronica Explains • •@Veronica Explains As a former proponent of "HTML is not a programming language", I can state that this video makes a compelling argument to the contrary.
I was wrong.
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in reply to scunneen (he/him) π • • •@scunneen I don't know, I think someone typing into a web form (like I'm doing right now) isn't likely to be considered computer programming (same as using Word). Even though the end result is turned to HTML at some point.
But if I hand wrote an entire .docx in vim and my boss were looking behind my shoulder, they'd be forgiven for seeing the waste of time as "programming".
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •You could make an argument that using Word could qualify as programming if you use advanced features like document-internal hyperlinks
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