Fine! If I can't get the debugger to invoke, I'll just step through the code line by line and use my brain to debug... the way God intended. 🙃
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We've all heard the tale of how to own a Nazi bar, i'm fairly sure.
I was drumming up interest in a local board game group i really enjoy, on my local queer Discord server. I got some interest.
Someone on the board games group's server asked "why did you make a point about us being queer friendly?" Not rudely, just curious.
"Because a lot of community groups are invisibly closed to us. We daren't reveal ourselves because of antipathy to queer folk. This place doesn't do that, at all. So i tell people it's safe, and they feel more comfy coming along."
Someone said, "Oh, so it's like the Nazi bar story, only good." I thought for a moment, and they're right. Sort of. Because unlike Nazis, queer folk aren't an invasive species. We don't push people out. Assholes just self-select choosing not to be associated with a bar that's queer-friendly.
Which is fine, system working as designed.
So...how do we tell the tale of the Queer-friendly bar, and the positive feedback loop that can occur when a business is explicitly friendly to queer folk?
Cause I think that could be a simple, true, and effective point about the great difference between choosing to be nice to Nazis instead of queer folk. Or vice versa, being nice to queers and bum-rushing the Nazis.
The Nazi Bar story is one we all know. Anyone got a proposal for how to do a good tale of how the bar got so lively? "Oh, I bought a drink for this gay fella once, and soon there were loads. But they're great guys, and if ya tell them no, they stop bugging ya, which is giving me weird feelings about how I treat women. And we get a lot fewer assholes, too."
Someone? Got a seed for the good story lurking here? I wanna make us some rippin' good properganda.
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I pretty much just add the fact that our group is inclusive of everyone and friendly about it, too. I figure that is the most efficient jerk filter.
When I lived in San Francisco, once I was wandering around the city and I was hungry so I went into the nearest place that was advertising lunch.
They had really good burgers.
*Years* later I looked the place up and found out it was the neighborhood's gay bar.
I just accidentally dropped my Jinhao 10 #FountainPen and bent the nib slightly (at least it wasn't an expensive pen, right?).
I did my best to bend it back into shape by hand and oddly enough, I kind of like the way it writes now better than before.
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As long as it still feeds ink and writes reasonably, it could be good. Either it bends down and you got a free posting nib mod or it bends up and get you a free fude nib mod.
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It's been brought to my attention that while #BuyNothing groups are pretty useful, they tend to exist mainly on Facebook. It'd be nice to have such a group for #WaterlooRegion here on the fedi as well.
I'd be happy to set one up, but if there's one that already exists, I'd rather use that than start from scratch. Is anyone aware of such a group here?
#KWAwesome #WRAwesome #Kitchener #Waterloo #Cambridge #Guelph
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you can instantly create a group by searching for @yourGroupName@ovo.st, like so: @BuyNothingWaterloo
@Furbland's Very Cool Mastodon™ Yeah, setting up a group us easy. I just didn't want to duplicate an existing one I didn't know about.
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FWIW, while I’m not what a # BuyNothing group talks about, the local KW Techs Slack team has a # buylocalandcanadian channel that has great recommendations for local and more-broadly Canadian products, and is focused mainly on independent businesses. It's a great resource, though obviously not fediverse.
Also FWIW, I’d love to see something similar here.
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A comic that I will think about every day for the rest of my life, probably.
(Sauce: analognowhere.com/_/ogmxha/ )
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I've said this before and I'll say it again: say what you will about GNU info pages, but when you get used to them, they're pretty nice.
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Also, I'm firmly down the elisp rabbit hole again. If I don't resurface in a week or so, send help.
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My god, when I get these coughing fits I don't understand how I don't get noise complaints from the neighbours. They can last anywhere from a week to a couple months, and at this point I want to punch myself in the face.
@Jeremy List I've had this before. It took years to get a conclusive diagnosis. Turns out of was reflux, and two antacids a day typically keeps it in check.
This past week though Katy and I have been sick, and it's upset the balance.
Drinking tea and reading a programming manual. This is my happy place.
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Just caught up on the highlights from the latest Grand #Sumo tournament, amd I have only one comment:
Ao-freaking-nishki!
Ao-freaking-nishki!
I am often compared to a sumo wrestler.. but almost certainly not because they believe I'd genuinely be good at doing that
Forgot how much I love pomegranates.
Cleaning some old redundant #FountinPen ink sample vials. They look clean individually until you place them next to each other. Then you can see that they each have a slight hue left.
Also, there's still some residue from the labels, but that'll probably be easier to fix.
Cleaning #FountainPens in bed. What could go wrong?
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I keep flirting with the idea of learning the Deseret alphabet. I have absolutely no practical reason for wanting to do this, but I still want to. I guess the appeal is my obsession with weird corners of #Mormon history.
If I'm going to learn an obscure alphabet, the Shavian alphabet is probably more practical, but... I dunno maybe I'll learn that one too.
A cheeseburger is breakfast food if you eat it in the morning.
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Dumb internet article: Here's 5 reasons you should be helping your wife clean the house.
Me: If all 5 reasons aren't 'Because you FUCKING LIVE THERE' then it's bullshit misogynist clickbait
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Is this a generational thing like do younger people now not understand that piracy is illegal
Have we normalized talking about it being ethical to the point that the fact that it's still definitely not legal has been lost on people
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I'm pro-piracy for most media, like I'd rather you not download someone's $2 indie game but I certainly have no qualms with pirating $1500 of Sims DLC because nobody should be expected to spend $1500 to buy all the content in a game
But ethics and law are often not the same thing!
I just won my first game of Go.
I mean, my (online) opponent apparently just abandoned the game and ran the clock out, but I'll take what I can get.
I love jobs that expect you to do a bunch of work for free before deciding whether or not to actually give you the job.
Applying for a freelance transcription gig tomorrow (when I can hopefully go back on my ADHD meds (because I can't mix them with Tylenol Cold)). Hopefully it works out better than the freelance closed captioning job I had a while back, but time will tell.
Trying to find a way to earn some extra income that doesn't require a reliable car, which has become a big question mark.
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Note to self (and others): “Forgive yourself for not knowing what you didn't know before you learned it”
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I'm finally starting to feel better (though you wouldn't know it from listening to my voice) just in time for Katy to start feeling a sore throat.
I really thought she was somehow going to dodge this one.
A conversation we just had:
Me: We should pick up some lemons.
Katy: We have limes.
Me: Will that work?
Katy: For what?
Me: For those teas you made me when I was sick. It really helped with my sore throat.
Katy: Yeah, I don't want that.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Welp, I am officially sick.
I've had both my COVID and flu shots, so hopefully I can fight it off faster.
I see Trump is vying for membership in the ICP?
I learned a while ago of the existence of old Soviet ternary computers and have been doing some reading about how a ternary computer would operate different from a binary one.
In a binary system, the smallest unit of data is the bit (binary digit). What would the smallest unit of data be in a ternary system?
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@Isaac Ji Kuo Yeah, while I'm still wrapping my brain around this system, I love how elegantly it handles negative numbers. Twos compliment in binary always felt a little hacky to me.
@Isaac Ji Kuo That said, I'm a little scared to think about how floating points work... though it's probably easier than I think.
@Isaac Ji Kuo I don't imagine here's an IEEE standard for ternary floating point values? (I wouldn't expect so.)
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God I hope I'm not coming down with something. I went to bed with a bit of a sore throat and woke up this mornig feelig like I'd been gargling broken glass.
Time to load up on tea with honey and lemon, I guess.
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Popped into #LambdaMOO for a birthday celebration that took place inside my sushi restaurant. This got me to thinking. I wonder if it's possible to tie my restaurant's code into the birthday machine somehow so that people can get free food on their birthday.
Wait, when did Nitter start working again?
Gotta be honest, it absolutely sucks watching the same people who call me a groomer just for being trans say that Epstein did nothing wrong because his victims were teenagers.
PEOPLE WOULD RATHER THEIR KIDS BE RAPED THAN BE TRANS.
And it is INFURIATING.
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Watching Megyn Kelly contort herself into knots to redefine child rape of 14 year olds as "adult & consensual" because Trump & Epstein "liked them young" and "barely pubescent".
This is beyond depraved. Megyn Kelly has a 14 year old daughter herself. That child needs a wellness check asap.
In a recent podcast, she & her guest absolved both men of culpability because they didn't like 5 or 8 year olds.
If these men had targeted kids under 10, Megyn Kelly would OK that too.
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@Npars01
If they are trying to normalize sex with 14 year olds now, the Epstein files must be really bad.
If they are trying to normalize sex with 14 year olds now, the Epstein files must be really bad.
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#xkcd No. 3167
Date: 2025-11-12
Title: Car Size
Alt text: 'They really shouldn't let those small cars drive in traffic. I worry I'm going to kill someone if I hit one! They should have to drive on the sidewalk, safely out of the way.'
xkcd.com/3167/
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Hooray! I finally talked my doctor into letting me go back on #ADHD meds. He pushed back, as expected, but I might actually be able to do things again.
I have always been annoyed by the statement that sqrt(-1) = i.
Note: I'm perfectly fine with the assertion that i^2 = -1.
The reason for this is that by the same logic, I could argue that
sqrt(1) = -1. We're either constraining the answer to positive numbers or we're not.
piecewise function definitions are a thing though, like the abs function for instance
abs(x) = x, for all positive x
abs(x) = -x, for all negative x
sqrt(x) = positive y, for all positive x
sqrt(x) = i * sqrt(-x), for all negative x
I also find arctan really weird, because it only works if you fiddle with the domain (yet it clearly does exist, and is useful)
I enjoy the unpleasant feeling I get when I realise that all maths is made up!
@Pat
abs can be defined for the whole complex plane though (the square root of the sum of the square of the real and imaginary components) i.e.:abs(a + bi) = sqrt(a^2 + b^2)
I have never understood hunting as a sport. I cannot bring myself to trust someone who kills things for enjoyment.
@Eric Gerlach I... guess, but I'd imagine there are less violent ways to feel that control.
Maybe that's just me.
One of the nice things about being exactly That Kind Of Open Source Nerd is every time something tries to sell me some tech product they are so desperately trying to convince me I both want and absolutely must have as a matter of utmost importance is I will then spend four hours finding a way to get precisely that but for free
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@JenJen @neil @me
I once worked for a major UK bank that decided it was cheaper to pay a payment processor than do PCI compliance themselves despite having all the legal, accounting and tech staff needed to do so.
So well done you for taking on something that can scare a major bank and getting it done! 🎉
I am kinda behind schedule today because every time I looked at my tablet (where I consult my to-do list) the cat took it as a personal insult and insisted I pay attention to him instead.
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Wearing white clothing while using a #FountainPen is always a gamble. I lost that bet today.
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Fortunately fountain pen ink is water soluble so it often washes right out if you get to it immediately.
Thank God it wasn't my Baystate Blue.
it’s not a stain it’s just Alternative Swatching
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You are responsible for the privacy-invasive software that you inflict upon others.
Yes, you!
Choose the software you use with the data of others carefully 🔒💚
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people need to stop snitching on themselves and their friends.
I'm sick of seeing people sell others out for an Amazon gift card.
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#AskFedi
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Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • •FWIW it seems to be complaining that the package description is
nil. Two things about this:define-packagelists this argument as optional.Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • •screwlisp
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •• (eepitch-shell)
cd foo
tar xvf testpackage-0-0.tar
• (add-to-list 'load-path "~/foo/testpackage-0.0")
• (load "testpackage")
• (apropos "testpackage")
=>
testpackage-func is an interactive Lisp function in ‘testpackage.el’.
(testpackage-func)
A test function
[back]works on my machine
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Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to screwlisp • •@screwlisp @Sacha Chua When I try to install it with
M-x package-install-fileit gives me:Wrong type argument: stringp, nilWhen I use the debugger it seems to be caused by it thinking the package description is
nil? I'll try to dig deeper.screwlisp
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •@sacha
GitHub - melpa/melpa: Recipes and build machinery for the biggest Emacs package repo
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in reply to screwlisp • • •mousebot
in reply to screwlisp • • •mastodon.el/lisp/mastodon.el at main
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in reply to screwlisp • •@screwlisp @Sacha Chua Yeah, I can build simple packages, but the description for how to build a multi-file package seems not to work.
Most packages are distributed in the simple format, but if you want to include a manual for instance, you need a multi-file package.
screwlisp
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •If we look at Xahlee's site here: xahlee.info/emacs/emacs/elisp_… he notes that
"The terms “Package” and “Library” do not have technical meaning in elisp.
The term “module” is not used by emacs."
} really, we are concerned with writing modes for emacs. Packaging them for distribution means meeting the package-source's requirements for the mode to be built and then distributed from a git, e.g.. That is my other 25 cents ;p.
Elisp: load, load-file, autoload
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in reply to screwlisp • • •This is different to #commonLisp in which I might
CL-USER> (uiop:define-package foo)
#<"FOO" package>
CL-USER> (in-package foo)
#<"FOO" package>
FOO> (defvar bar)
BAR
FOO> (export 'bar)
T
} this is not an emacs idiom. Similarly, common lisp does not have a notion of interaction major and minor modes like emacs does. I guess package in emacs means something similar to system in the de facto asdf sense in common lisp. In my opinion this collision is confusing.
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in reply to screwlisp • •gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/…
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in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •Submitting a Package to NonGNU ELPA
Bozhidar Batsov (Emacs Redux)Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Sacha Chua • •@Sacha Chua @screwlisp Yeah, that's essentially what I'm trying to do. My eventual goal is to create my own semi-private ELPA archive, mostly because I don't want to bother people with having to review my probably terrible novice code before including it in their archives. 🙃
None of this code is really ready for public consumption yet. It's more of a learning exercise.
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in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •I picked a trivial multifile package example, seq:
Tree: gitweb.git.savannah.gnu.org/gi…
A package of three files, seq.el, seq-24.el and seq-25.el, and if you are in emacs 25 or later, seq.el requires seq-25 or seq-24 otherwise. Presumably your multi-file elisp project should meaningfully resemble seq e.g. with the conventional package headers.
Then, I think you are basically looking for quelpa: github.com/quelpa/quelpa
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GitHub - quelpa/quelpa: Build and install your Emacs Lisp packages on-the-fly directly from source
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in reply to screwlisp • •@screwlisp @Sacha Chua What's interesting is that this package seems to be lacking a
seq-pkg.elfile. 🤔Edit: Wait, it's in
.gitignore?Is it being auto generated somehow?
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screwlisp
in reply to screwlisp • • •> (directory "~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/*.*")
(#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq.elc"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-25.elc"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-24.elc"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-autoloads.el"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-25.el"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-pkg.el"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq.el"
#P"~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-24.el")
if you will forgive some of the-other-lisp ;p
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in reply to screwlisp • •@screwlisp @Sacha Chua What I'm curious about is how it made the determination that
seq.elwas the main file. This is fairly obvious with my human intuition. Was it just because all the other.elfiles started withseq-, or was it doing something more fancy by looking at the contents of the files and seeing what requited what?Edit: Ah, I bet it has to do with the fact that only
seq.elhad;; Package:and;; Version:lines, which explicitly set the package name (and version).Jonathan Lamothe
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in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • •Ah. I assume that this would live somewhere near the top of my
testpackage.elfile?Edit: Looking at other examples, it tends to be found at the bottom.
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in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •You could try package-build-create-recipe
It will need to be filled in, but if your headers are correct, with author, packages-required, version, etc.
Edit the recipe for your git. You'll be in recipe mode.
Saving it puts it in .../elpa/recipes/
Building it with C-c C-c will make a package and install it in your elpa..
That might teach you what you need.
It will automatically pick up .el and .texi files.
Not eld, but if you have some odd file, you can add the pattern to the recipe. I have an eld which is not in the list of automatic files.
See the contributing doc at GitHub Melpa.
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in reply to Zenie • • •You want something like this?
oitofelix.github.io/elpa/
See the link to elpa-deploy halfway down.
oitofelix - ELPA
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